07-14-2014, 12:04 PM
Thank you guys:D
Cyprinus:
Yes, that "style or mistake" thing is really difficult for me. For example, I've been drawing eyes pretty much the same size in the 3/4 view and then I saw that the more stylized anime styles tend to exaggerate the perspective of the eyes quite a bit, so I was like ok, let's try and do that - and look what happened:D
As for the studies, yes, I think that's the obvious solution, though I have some kind of love/hate relationship with studies:) On one side, it comes natural to me, as my background mostly consisted of studies and working from references, but on the other side, I feel as if somehow nothing stays in my brain. Maybe I should focus more specifically in one go, for example, do only sadamoto faces study/apply for like five days or something.
Also, anime to me is a VERY strange and elusive beast. Very. Some things I simply can't deconstruct (are they winging the floating noses or there's a construction behind it, for example) and the fact that I am used to analytic approach and can analyze a lot of styles only makes it worse.
Jyonny:
Wow, thanks man, I appreciate it:D I mean, really, thank you. It means a lot if my approach inspired you to throw away the "anime is simple/stupid/easy" stigma:)
And thank you for liking my work, you are giving me confidence to pursue it too:)
ZombieCh:
Thank you for the compliments:) About the skill perception, I don't know, maybe... I mean, it might be that my passive critical eye is way more developed than my actual skill and then I recognize million bad things in a drawing and I want to kill myself:)
Though, I don't think I'm BAD bad. It's more about the distribution of my "skill points" vs where I'm trying to distribute them:) For example, I think that I have a fairly good eye and I can do studies which have good quickness-accuracy ratio. Also, I think I can analyze stuff well. And I think my anatomy is getting better almost on a weekly basis. But then I see 12yo dude's haruhi suzumiya fan art that has no fundamentals, no dexterity and no construction - and it's simply more anime:) And then I'm like "omg where do I find THAT":D Of course, by "more anime" I am not thinking about some teenage mantra as if somehow "animeness" equals quality, it's just that it's what I love and want to do:) I find "genuine animeness" appealing and want to do it:)
As for the output, thank you, I do try to be consistent, but for example, the difference between the two last updates is like two weeks. Of course, my hand is still pretty non functioning, so that two weeks are like 15 hours of work:( But yeah, when I fix it, I plan on putting updates like that with no more than 1-3 days apart:)
Also, I'm 32, so I want to get to a decent level as soon as possible, for example in two years or so:)
to all:
hahah, yeah, it seems that I'm the only one so far that did a reversed process for drawing anime. The other way around seems to be extremely prevalent in the industry. For example, even on streams and talks, I more often than not hear that the artist xyz started by tracing cowboy bebop or something, but then switched and now is doing something like matte landscapes for halo 5:)
I always liked anime, but never thought of pursuing it professionally (or drawing it out of leisure even) until recently. Strangely enough, I developed a great deal of respect for the anime style as I've got to know art and fundamentals more. The more I know, the more I can respect stylization and flow in anime pieces, or compare them to Mucha or Klimt or Lautrec, or cherish the stylized anatomy as something above the realistic anatomy, as it contains realistic anatomy plus the knowledgeable intervention. And so on.
And while I do think that generally it's a good thing I did it the "other way around", as now I have enough knowledge to analyze stuff and sources, not get caught up in bad tutorials void of fundamentals (which is sadly extremely common in anime tutorials as they're virtually unchecked and the whole community is amateurish), it has its downsides, as my haruhi fan art is better in every way than that twelve year old guy's, but at the same, ten times less haruhi than his:D
Cyprinus:
Yes, that "style or mistake" thing is really difficult for me. For example, I've been drawing eyes pretty much the same size in the 3/4 view and then I saw that the more stylized anime styles tend to exaggerate the perspective of the eyes quite a bit, so I was like ok, let's try and do that - and look what happened:D
As for the studies, yes, I think that's the obvious solution, though I have some kind of love/hate relationship with studies:) On one side, it comes natural to me, as my background mostly consisted of studies and working from references, but on the other side, I feel as if somehow nothing stays in my brain. Maybe I should focus more specifically in one go, for example, do only sadamoto faces study/apply for like five days or something.
Also, anime to me is a VERY strange and elusive beast. Very. Some things I simply can't deconstruct (are they winging the floating noses or there's a construction behind it, for example) and the fact that I am used to analytic approach and can analyze a lot of styles only makes it worse.
Jyonny:
Wow, thanks man, I appreciate it:D I mean, really, thank you. It means a lot if my approach inspired you to throw away the "anime is simple/stupid/easy" stigma:)
And thank you for liking my work, you are giving me confidence to pursue it too:)
ZombieCh:
Thank you for the compliments:) About the skill perception, I don't know, maybe... I mean, it might be that my passive critical eye is way more developed than my actual skill and then I recognize million bad things in a drawing and I want to kill myself:)
Though, I don't think I'm BAD bad. It's more about the distribution of my "skill points" vs where I'm trying to distribute them:) For example, I think that I have a fairly good eye and I can do studies which have good quickness-accuracy ratio. Also, I think I can analyze stuff well. And I think my anatomy is getting better almost on a weekly basis. But then I see 12yo dude's haruhi suzumiya fan art that has no fundamentals, no dexterity and no construction - and it's simply more anime:) And then I'm like "omg where do I find THAT":D Of course, by "more anime" I am not thinking about some teenage mantra as if somehow "animeness" equals quality, it's just that it's what I love and want to do:) I find "genuine animeness" appealing and want to do it:)
As for the output, thank you, I do try to be consistent, but for example, the difference between the two last updates is like two weeks. Of course, my hand is still pretty non functioning, so that two weeks are like 15 hours of work:( But yeah, when I fix it, I plan on putting updates like that with no more than 1-3 days apart:)
Also, I'm 32, so I want to get to a decent level as soon as possible, for example in two years or so:)
to all:
hahah, yeah, it seems that I'm the only one so far that did a reversed process for drawing anime. The other way around seems to be extremely prevalent in the industry. For example, even on streams and talks, I more often than not hear that the artist xyz started by tracing cowboy bebop or something, but then switched and now is doing something like matte landscapes for halo 5:)
I always liked anime, but never thought of pursuing it professionally (or drawing it out of leisure even) until recently. Strangely enough, I developed a great deal of respect for the anime style as I've got to know art and fundamentals more. The more I know, the more I can respect stylization and flow in anime pieces, or compare them to Mucha or Klimt or Lautrec, or cherish the stylized anatomy as something above the realistic anatomy, as it contains realistic anatomy plus the knowledgeable intervention. And so on.
And while I do think that generally it's a good thing I did it the "other way around", as now I have enough knowledge to analyze stuff and sources, not get caught up in bad tutorials void of fundamentals (which is sadly extremely common in anime tutorials as they're virtually unchecked and the whole community is amateurish), it has its downsides, as my haruhi fan art is better in every way than that twelve year old guy's, but at the same, ten times less haruhi than his:D