07-15-2014, 09:53 AM
Ha, well man I didn't mean to belittle your condition at all! :) I understand your need to vent, and I don't want to take the benefit of that away. Just venting can help!
However I am quite simply trying to give you the absolute best, most useful advice I can. Most people's situations and suffering are self inflicted and self generated, and as these often are reactions to external stuff happening, the focus goes to the external stuff as the thing to solve. I don't want to fuel this idea that the environment is the main cause and then apply a salve to the symptom.
No. I truly don't believe thinking about things in this way will help you get past things like this. Yes I could say, avoid social media, don't overthink, take each negative happening and feeling as a challenge not an excuse. Cultivate a positive attitude. These are all things that are definitely actions that will help. No doubt. (Which you should do :) ) But I am trying to offer you the best advice I can give, which is a salve to the cause of all your suffering, namely, you. It's not about rising to a higher level or anything, but realising where the "truth" of thinking at that "level" lies.
I will have to disagree with you and say from personal experience that it really doesn't make anything meaningless in the slightest, though I understand why you would think so. I know that through the realisation of the nature of your own suffering and with some self inquiry you can also realise actual things to do / change / avoid that are practical and get you to a better place. I know because I have done exactly this.
Sorry I know that speaking about one's own realisation is very hard to translate to another person at the fundamental level, but I believe this is what has really helped me start to stop self-flagellation, and I believe you (or anyone) can too, if they wish.
However I am quite simply trying to give you the absolute best, most useful advice I can. Most people's situations and suffering are self inflicted and self generated, and as these often are reactions to external stuff happening, the focus goes to the external stuff as the thing to solve. I don't want to fuel this idea that the environment is the main cause and then apply a salve to the symptom.
No. I truly don't believe thinking about things in this way will help you get past things like this. Yes I could say, avoid social media, don't overthink, take each negative happening and feeling as a challenge not an excuse. Cultivate a positive attitude. These are all things that are definitely actions that will help. No doubt. (Which you should do :) ) But I am trying to offer you the best advice I can give, which is a salve to the cause of all your suffering, namely, you. It's not about rising to a higher level or anything, but realising where the "truth" of thinking at that "level" lies.
I will have to disagree with you and say from personal experience that it really doesn't make anything meaningless in the slightest, though I understand why you would think so. I know that through the realisation of the nature of your own suffering and with some self inquiry you can also realise actual things to do / change / avoid that are practical and get you to a better place. I know because I have done exactly this.
Sorry I know that speaking about one's own realisation is very hard to translate to another person at the fundamental level, but I believe this is what has really helped me start to stop self-flagellation, and I believe you (or anyone) can too, if they wish.