Neopatogen Sketchbook
Hey neo, thought'd i'd give ya  big steamin pile o crits. 

First, see this? watch it; the whole series, it's like an hour total
[Image: watch?v=07fusT-dwVE]

Next time you do a gesture, do what he's doing, no more straight lines in your figure drawings when establishing the gesture. I don't care how nice the rendering is, nothing will save a stiff pose from looking stiff. You have a cool design here, it's like a dude from the matrix and the rendering on that metal thing is fucking awesome. Love the little smoke effect too, so don't sweat that stuff.

The problem is just stiffness. And flatness; which you need to evaluate carefully. If your shapes are a graphic shape, that is literally showing no turn of direction, it's flat and it kills depth. some examples of flat things:

https://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/dkscdn/..._White_is/
http://dreamicus.com/data/face/face-01.jpg
http://www.dreams.metroeve.com/wp-conten...eaning.jpg

Now if you were to turn those things slightly, that makes them show volume, and the appeal of realistic drawing is in the depiction of volume/structure. You have a solid research strategy for character design; highly respectable. 

I think you should invest time into gesture and try to get your figures alone to look good, and this will make your design soar. If the anatomy and pose and face are appealing with no clothes, more than half the battle is won. Plan your poses more, show things turning, show volume. I know drawing correctly is tough, but the good news is, if you get the essential and inital curves right, the drawing will do itself in a sense. Even to the point of letting you leave things out for the sake of maintaining the gesture. Nothing is more powerful in drawing then gesture, it makes or breaks the piece. It pisses me off how little information there is on it in anatomy books and vids... so crucial!

Also, work the cloth into the gesture. Cloth can blow this way and that, look cool in big shapes. Use those C curves and S curves to show advantage. We are all made of water and water moves in waves, which is attractive... I'm getting too philisophical, but it's true!!

Cloth... it moves, if changes shapes, don't just go for that flat graphic shape, we've seen that! Make it interesting and make those sexy shapes as shaddi safadi would say. Sure sometimes, flat shapes are okay, but always bear in mind they ruin depth and if you can avoid em, do it!!


https://marko-djurdjevic.deviantart.com/...-481313459
https://marko-djurdjevic.deviantart.com/...-481094974
https://marko-djurdjevic.deviantart.com/...-480397973

Luv you bebz, keep goin at it!!!


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70+Page Koala Sketchbook: http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-3465.html SB

Paintover thread, submit for crits! http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-7879.html
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Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 12-14-2015, 11:14 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 04-23-2016, 11:30 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Mechanizoid - 04-24-2016, 01:57 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Triggerpigking - 04-26-2016, 01:22 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 04-27-2016, 12:04 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Elderscroller - 04-27-2016, 12:31 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by DQ_Nick - 04-27-2016, 08:51 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 04-29-2016, 02:12 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Triggerpigking - 04-29-2016, 05:37 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by smrr - 05-01-2016, 02:46 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 05-03-2016, 01:20 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by John - 05-03-2016, 01:39 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by KurtJeremy - 05-03-2016, 03:09 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by miracoly - 05-03-2016, 03:58 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 05-03-2016, 10:52 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Amit Dutta - 05-03-2016, 11:45 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Piotr Jasielski - 05-04-2016, 10:46 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by alexdanila - 05-05-2016, 01:43 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 05-06-2016, 08:03 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by ShinOkami - 05-10-2016, 05:00 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Artloader - 05-10-2016, 08:17 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 05-12-2016, 01:02 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 05-14-2016, 05:33 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 05-15-2016, 08:07 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 05-28-2016, 01:04 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by KurtJeremy - 05-28-2016, 02:48 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by JyonnyNovice - 05-30-2016, 02:40 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Caisne - 05-30-2016, 04:35 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 06-04-2016, 12:17 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by John - 06-04-2016, 06:42 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 06-04-2016, 08:48 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by BrushNoir - 06-04-2016, 09:18 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 06-04-2016, 10:33 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 06-05-2016, 06:23 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 06-10-2016, 07:29 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Leonard - 06-19-2016, 08:57 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 07-04-2016, 01:12 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by crackedskull - 07-04-2016, 06:17 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Mechanizoid - 07-06-2016, 10:21 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Amit Dutta - 07-06-2016, 10:32 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 07-06-2016, 11:22 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 07-19-2016, 11:30 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by ramalooke - 07-25-2016, 08:15 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by AlfonsoX - 07-31-2016, 05:27 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 07-31-2016, 07:00 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Eyliana - 07-31-2016, 07:33 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by BadWoolf - 08-01-2016, 01:41 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 08-01-2016, 02:00 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by rootdraws - 08-01-2016, 04:41 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 08-04-2016, 06:10 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by BjorkJT - 08-04-2016, 07:45 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Kimonas - 08-06-2016, 07:34 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 08-26-2016, 06:53 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 08-30-2016, 07:40 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Kimonas - 09-02-2016, 07:31 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 09-18-2016, 09:13 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Artloader - 09-18-2016, 05:10 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by meat - 09-28-2016, 01:19 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Anton_Fort - 09-29-2016, 11:53 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 10-12-2016, 08:34 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Abnormal - 10-13-2016, 06:34 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Triggerpigking - 10-19-2016, 08:57 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 10-30-2016, 09:03 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Zorrentos - 11-04-2016, 10:30 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 12-03-2016, 09:50 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 12-03-2016, 07:44 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 12-04-2016, 01:27 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 12-04-2016, 10:01 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 12-19-2016, 12:34 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 12-19-2016, 06:48 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 12-20-2016, 07:00 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 12-22-2016, 07:31 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by ShinOkami - 12-22-2016, 05:06 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by sansReAnne - 12-24-2016, 08:54 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Triggerpigking - 12-29-2016, 03:12 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 12-31-2016, 05:04 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by KurtJeremy - 01-01-2017, 06:00 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 01-08-2017, 09:22 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 01-09-2017, 06:56 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Triggerpigking - 01-09-2017, 10:52 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 01-14-2017, 09:24 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 01-31-2017, 08:02 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by AngeliquevdMee - 01-31-2017, 05:26 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 02-08-2017, 07:07 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by vennsomn - 02-09-2017, 03:40 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 02-12-2017, 12:21 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 02-15-2017, 07:47 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Artloader - 02-15-2017, 09:02 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by AlexShi - 02-15-2017, 12:07 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 02-18-2017, 02:54 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by kvSketch - 02-18-2017, 05:08 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 02-19-2017, 01:34 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 02-26-2017, 08:07 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by cicakkia - 02-26-2017, 12:21 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 03-05-2017, 07:17 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by miracoly - 03-07-2017, 07:55 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by KurtJeremy - 03-12-2017, 08:08 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 04-16-2017, 09:16 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by AlfonsoX - 04-16-2017, 09:44 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 04-17-2017, 12:25 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Artloader - 04-19-2017, 04:04 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by meat - 04-21-2017, 01:08 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 05-05-2017, 06:57 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Leonard - 05-06-2017, 08:54 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 05-07-2017, 11:32 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 05-19-2017, 06:50 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 06-07-2017, 12:19 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Hobitt - 06-08-2017, 12:49 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 06-19-2017, 03:18 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 06-19-2017, 05:23 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 06-26-2017, 05:59 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Artloader - 07-02-2017, 09:43 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Arteriorrhexis - 07-11-2017, 11:37 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 07-14-2017, 08:26 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 07-14-2017, 08:35 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Baoto - 07-18-2017, 06:51 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 07-19-2017, 06:21 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 07-24-2017, 07:12 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 07-29-2017, 09:40 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Dreschler - 08-11-2017, 11:11 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 08-17-2017, 03:53 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 08-17-2017, 04:09 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Shalis - 08-17-2017, 04:47 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by kikindaface - 08-17-2017, 04:50 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 08-18-2017, 03:34 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by bagenew - 08-18-2017, 03:53 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 09-04-2017, 09:01 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 09-24-2017, 09:24 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 09-24-2017, 12:01 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Hobitt - 09-24-2017, 10:20 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Mysti.S - 09-29-2017, 07:56 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 10-05-2017, 11:01 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by xelfereht - 10-06-2017, 02:53 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 10-06-2017, 11:01 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Artloader - 10-13-2017, 08:46 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Leonard - 10-14-2017, 01:46 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by AngeliquevdMee - 10-14-2017, 02:50 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 10-14-2017, 05:40 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 10-16-2017, 10:47 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 10-16-2017, 10:57 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 10-16-2017, 11:08 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 10-28-2017, 04:35 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 11-25-2017, 06:45 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 11-25-2017, 06:49 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 11-25-2017, 08:14 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 11-25-2017, 08:23 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 11-25-2017, 09:05 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 11-25-2017, 07:12 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 11-26-2017, 09:20 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 12-05-2017, 07:25 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 12-05-2017, 08:55 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by darktiste - 12-06-2017, 07:41 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 12-06-2017, 05:19 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by darktiste - 12-07-2017, 02:42 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 12-08-2017, 08:14 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Adzerak - 01-17-2018, 10:28 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 02-12-2018, 02:05 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 02-12-2018, 02:11 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 02-12-2018, 02:35 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 02-12-2018, 06:41 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 02-13-2018, 04:40 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Toranja - 02-15-2018, 06:21 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 02-26-2018, 07:41 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 02-26-2018, 07:42 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 02-27-2018, 02:26 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Abnormal - 02-27-2018, 10:30 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by VoodooMama - 03-03-2018, 02:05 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 04-17-2019, 04:37 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 04-19-2019, 12:54 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by roanna - 05-08-2019, 06:07 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 04-19-2020, 01:17 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 04-19-2020, 08:37 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Gliger - 04-19-2020, 09:27 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by darktiste - 04-19-2020, 12:15 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 11-26-2020, 06:12 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Artloader - 11-26-2020, 08:10 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by JyonnyNovice - 11-26-2020, 10:23 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by chubby_cat - 11-26-2020, 04:20 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 08-10-2021, 11:29 PM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by RottenPocket - 08-12-2021, 07:03 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by neopatogen - 03-20-2023, 02:51 AM
RE: Neopatogen Sketchbook - by Leo Ki - 03-21-2023, 11:33 AM

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