04-11-2023, 01:19 AM
@Leo Ki
I have a bad sense of scene pacing. It happens in writing too, if I'm not careful I don't get into and out of a scene at the right point, trying to keep it linear and chronological thus wasting time with useless transitions like "character did A, then B then C". Panelling takes it up to eleven, you don't just chop up a plot into scene/sequence chunks but are supposed to show only relevant points of each unit and imply a lot.
Then there's how you position the panels, how many in each page, where, the way they look in the spread... A lot to learn. <o>
Had zero time for figures this week. :|
It might remain this way for a little while, lots to do in the next few weeks, with doctor appointments and who knows how many tests on top of that.
@ThereIsNoJustice
Putting something down is exactly how I do it. I need those hand grips. Unfortunately geometric methods like Loomis, full of lines and measurements don't work for me. I found it the hard way approaches like these can work as a sanity check to fix some proportion issue after drawing something, but never as a starting point or constructive method. I can't see the subject in these lines and mess placement badly.
Construction also helps me a lot! The weird hundreds of bad drawings of _body part_ and occasional tracing are an attempt at memorizing shapes. As far as I can tell it's working to speed up bringing them into the "muscle memory".
I ended not posting the sketchbook pages from the week before last one. New pencils mean I've been playing with acrylics again because I don't need to worry about smudges gunking the paint. It's so fun!
Last week's drawings.
The side light bounced badly on the paint on the top right, so here's the lady from an angle in which this doesn't happen, plus two other portraits where I also used paint in fun ways because why not?
Since we talked about expectations and speed, I should mention I've been spending more time on these portraits now they're darker, larger or use paint.
The lighter ones still take under 1h while the others take over 1h — I'm not sure how long, I just know I've exceeded it because I've setup a shortcut to prevent my screen from sleeping for 1h and now it has been going to sleep anyway when I'm close to finishing the harder portraits.
EDIT
I'm a bit mad I still fumbled the Black man's portrait in the page above so spend twice the time in this woman's. It's a bit better, but keep shading as if I could reach darker values I can't with these pencils and repeating the same mistakes is just stupid, hah. I also need to watch out for the hatching quality. Because it's more visible it makes a lot of difference.
(04-05-2023, 01:54 PM)Leo Ki Wrote: Layouts are fascinating. Of course it's good to study about them, but I really would like to encourage you to do a lot of very quick ones on a very small page without thinking too much, focusing on the story, not the drawing. You only need a few strokes or blobs inside each panel just to remember what you want in them. It's just for yourself (and also for the forum i hope).
I have a bad sense of scene pacing. It happens in writing too, if I'm not careful I don't get into and out of a scene at the right point, trying to keep it linear and chronological thus wasting time with useless transitions like "character did A, then B then C". Panelling takes it up to eleven, you don't just chop up a plot into scene/sequence chunks but are supposed to show only relevant points of each unit and imply a lot.
Then there's how you position the panels, how many in each page, where, the way they look in the spread... A lot to learn. <o>
(04-05-2023, 01:54 PM)Leo Ki Wrote: Yummy hands, waiting for the arms to come :)
Had zero time for figures this week. :|
It might remain this way for a little while, lots to do in the next few weeks, with doctor appointments and who knows how many tests on top of that.
@ThereIsNoJustice
(04-05-2023, 09:22 PM)ThereIsNoJustice Wrote: Interesting discussion in here about visual library and imagination drawing, etc. I can visualize things when I'm not drawing (like reading a novel), but it's no help at all when staring at the blank page. I have to put something down, see that it needs adjusting, and then change it. If it weren't for digital drawing/painting I wouldn't even bother with art at all. Of course, memorizing proportions and construction from simple shapes helps a lot.
Putting something down is exactly how I do it. I need those hand grips. Unfortunately geometric methods like Loomis, full of lines and measurements don't work for me. I found it the hard way approaches like these can work as a sanity check to fix some proportion issue after drawing something, but never as a starting point or constructive method. I can't see the subject in these lines and mess placement badly.
Construction also helps me a lot! The weird hundreds of bad drawings of _body part_ and occasional tracing are an attempt at memorizing shapes. As far as I can tell it's working to speed up bringing them into the "muscle memory".
I ended not posting the sketchbook pages from the week before last one. New pencils mean I've been playing with acrylics again because I don't need to worry about smudges gunking the paint. It's so fun!
Last week's drawings.
The side light bounced badly on the paint on the top right, so here's the lady from an angle in which this doesn't happen, plus two other portraits where I also used paint in fun ways because why not?
Since we talked about expectations and speed, I should mention I've been spending more time on these portraits now they're darker, larger or use paint.
The lighter ones still take under 1h while the others take over 1h — I'm not sure how long, I just know I've exceeded it because I've setup a shortcut to prevent my screen from sleeping for 1h and now it has been going to sleep anyway when I'm close to finishing the harder portraits.
EDIT
I'm a bit mad I still fumbled the Black man's portrait in the page above so spend twice the time in this woman's. It's a bit better, but keep shading as if I could reach darker values I can't with these pencils and repeating the same mistakes is just stupid, hah. I also need to watch out for the hatching quality. Because it's more visible it makes a lot of difference.