bluehabit sketchbook

[JosephCow]

Whoa this last study looks great! It's drawn well and the form reads quite clearly despite being at an unpolished stage. I love the pattern of shadow on the side of her face, looks very good. Was it an excercise in doing a dimmer light source (20%?). Otherwise, it could really get a lot lighter than that, not that you have to always have a full value range.

[bluehabit]

@JosephCow, Thank you I really appreciate it! That's probably as far as I am going to take that one. It was supposed to be a quick study, but I am a very slow painter, it probably took 8 hours to get to that level. Focus of the study was studying a dim light source and light falloff on facial forms. Its a bit harder for me to work in a restricted value range where there are basically no blacks or pure whites so that was part of the challenge. If you are curious, I went back and edited the original image to show the ref I was working from. I am using Anatomy360.

[Rotohail]

Well man, I gotta say it looks really good, the form looks great! 8hrs! Well it pays off, I would guess if you had to do it again you would do it much faster, and so on. Speeds is mostly repetition. Once you know something. So you use 3D models? So you use 3D to study? I have to try that one day. Useful to play around with the lights!
How do those exercises translate to you personal work? Are they working? I would like to practice stuff like that myself in hopes it helps me with my own stuff. But so far it doesn't seem to show.

[bluehabit]

@Rotohail, Thank you! The website is anatomy360.info has a bunch of 3D scanned models, poses, faces etc. that you can pose very easily and control the position of light, its intensity, rim light etc. Its pretty handy for studying form and cast shadows and such.

I haven't really done much personal work, drawing from imagination is still really bad. That's where I really admire your work. I have always been a lot stronger at painting over sketching (but thats probably because I enjoy painting and do it a lot more). To fix this, I am trying to do quicker sketches like this cow below and get comfortable doing that before I start moving into creating things. If I can make a sketch that looks descent, I am getting to the point where I could probably render it out ok.


EDIT: Bad sketches

[MrPaintedPug]

Hey Bluehabit

Nice start on your sketchbook, your digital paintings are awesome.  Can't really give you any advice, just starting out. But im looking forward to seeing what else pops up here!

[Rotohail]

Well you did catch my interest so I tried to use a few 3D skull models for my newest page as something to fall back on, while doing warm ups, and is really useful! I need to use this more.

Ha, maybe you are the opposite of me! I can't for the life of me paint texture. I struggle. Maybe is just that we need to do what the other does. Or merge our brains into a big unstoppable drawing machine! Ha. I go first! lol.

Well it does look like a cow! I don't even think I can draw cows, need to study more. Render it huh? That I can't do. What do you feel is the thing you have the most trouble with when drawing from imagination? When painting to me is setting up lighting in a interesting way, I can't come up with ways to do that in may head as of now. Hope in time I get the gist.

[bluehabit]

 What do you feel is the thing you have the most trouble with when drawing from imagination? When painting to me is setting up lighting in a interesting way

Everything, perspective, anatomy, ideas. I need to just start drawing and making up stuff even if its not at the level of my observed studies. It won't be for awhile that the two skills match. 

To try and help with that I have started to do a lot more sketching and gesture drawing. Trying to imagine the basic shapes of the human anatomy, draw a figure from different angles from study and from imagination and go from there.










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@Leo Ki Thanks! Using an edit to reply don't want to bump my own thread.

[darktiste]

I am look at all this so far and i am like where are the gesture study? Where is own original content.Sorry to say this but it had to be said.Don't make the error of many artist by staying in the printer mode.What i mean by printer is copying and forgetting to create your own original content.But i totally understand that feel of i want to be perfect before i draw anything from my own mind.The problem right now if you want to work toward making your own figure is that there no apparent work in your sketchbook that show you understand perspective something that will be important to create your own figure.I would also ask myself where are anatomy study.Maybe you have done alot of study before this but this sketchbook doesn't show that your doing those kind of study.

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Please don't but yor update content before my comment .Your making me look bad and it sound like i am lying.Those 3 image were not there yesterday. 24 10 2019.Avoiding editing for other reason than grammar.It may clogg your sketchbook to reply to people but if you want you can still private message them.But after all it your sketchbook so do as you please i just see thing from an other perspective.

[Leo Ki]

Good thing I scrolled back up because you keep editing your posts, lol.
You are approaching an interesting minimalism in this sketch: https://i.imgur.com/13xDX8c.png Maybe try to use a larger brush for the shadows.

[Rotohail]

Okay so I see now that cow was from a picture? Hmm, I wouldn't call that sketches then, I mean sometimes people use words interchangeably, that's more a study to me, a sketch to me is when you draw something on the moment, usually from your memory or just exploring around. Anyhow! If you feel your imagination stuff is not up to pair, well that's tough for me to give advice for, like I keep hearing people say that but I for better or worse started out drawing like that, so I don't know the feeling, I know the opposite! Like I struggled and still struggle to get likeness and proportions right when I copy something, had to teach myself to slow down and measure for a while before starting throwing lines around. Hmm, sketching, well there's too ways, you either throw lines around and explore forms, let yourself be suggested, or go with an idea in mind, the clearer the picture the better. There's always room for changes. That's how it works for me.
I gotta say one thing though, which can be controversial, but studies, like copying things around, does not make my imagination stuff be automatically better. at all. The thing that seems to help me the most is to attempt to sketch something, and when I get stuck then research references or anything that can help me, then, start over. That does help me improve. But is a pain in the ass ha ha. I take forever to push through new things! But is what seems to stick with me.
I guess the best advice will be, try to find a workflow that makes sense to you? Based on your goal. Ultimately so long you make what you like, should be good.
So these figures are still copies from models? Try to do one from memory after a few days, no looking! Then see how close you get.

[bluehabit]

@Rotohail, Thanks for you perspective I appreciate it.

Sometimes I sketch like that but most of it is so bad I never share it. Like here are some sketches I was doing trying to get in the mood for Halloween. But just got frustrated and just kind of stopped. I just need to power through it and keep doing it. That is partly why I am so focused on drawing models in perspective cubes right now, so I can imagine poses from many different camera angles. I feel like even some of my favorite artists that I admire are stuck drawing things at limited angles: straight on, or relatively straight on 3 quarters view - me included.

[bluehabit]

Switched to a HB pencil brush in photoshop and its really helping me loosen up. I always found I had a really hard time sketching, I would always end up trying to paint the object plus its really hard to sketch with a paint brush. Brush is (brushes) - kyle's ultimate megapack, probably my favorite HB pencil brush I have out of several.

[Nature]

Switched to a HB pencil brush in photoshop and its really helping me loosen up. I always found I had a really hard time sketching, I would always end up trying to paint the object plus its really hard to sketch with a paint brush.  Brush is (brushes) - kyle's ultimate megapack, probably my favorite HB pencil brush I have out of several.

That HB pencil brush is usually what I use to sketch and draw too. What worked for me is lowering the opacity and flow and using a dark grey instead of black for smoother sketching.

[879]

It looks like her left titty doesn’t really sit on her. I don’t have the anatomical knowledge to help further and I kinda just threw a dumb looking bolt on unintentionally but hopefully it helps you see how your drawing on planes a bit weird. I think her pits are off they don’t insert correctly but you’ll have to use an anatomy book because I don’t know either.



Edit: after posting I forgot to fix the hands the wrist on yours is broken and I left it now it looks like alien fingers so again ignore anatomy but the planes thing should still help maybe?

[darktiste]

It looks like her left titty doesn’t really sit on her. I don’t have the anatomical knowledge to help further and I kinda just threw a dumb looking bolt on unintentionally but hopefully it helps you see how your drawing on planes a bit weird. I think her pits are off they don’t insert correctly but you’ll have to use an anatomy book because I don’t know either.


Edit: after posting I forgot to fix the hands the wrist on yours is broken and I left it now it looks like alien fingers so again ignore anatomy but the planes thing should still help maybe?

@879 she more anatomically correct will your more comicish.Boob sag naturally will you did some pornish fake boob.


@Bluehabit next time it would be advise to post the reference or you will get paint over that aren't as useful as they can be.

[879]

@879 she more anatomically correct will your more comicish.Boob sag naturally will you did some pornish fake boob.


@Bluehabit next time it would be advise to post the reference or you will get paint over that aren't as useful as they can be.

bolt on is slang for fake titties. I'm in agreement with dark you should post the ref so he can do an anatomically correct paintover for us

[darktiste]

I don't advise 3d model unless it to create your own scene.Find real picture of live model to avoid the ridgity of 3d so if i was you i would supplement with real life photo or real live model class if you can afford it.

here a website for gesture drawing.
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tool...re-drawing

Here the resource section if you never visit it take your time.
http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-3.html

[Rotohail]

@Rotohail, Thanks for you perspective I appreciate it.

Sometimes I sketch like that but most of it is so bad I never share it. Like here are some sketches I was doing trying to get in the mood for Halloween. But just got frustrated and just kind of stopped. I just need to power through it and keep doing it. That is partly why I am so focused on drawing models in perspective cubes right now, so I can imagine poses from many different camera angles. I feel like even some of my favorite artists that I admire are stuck drawing things at limited angles: straight on, or relatively straight on 3 quarters view - me included.

Why did you get frustrated? Well the bat is looking fine! And the dragon also I feel. I would say if you do some construction you can fix some of the perspective/proportion issues. Then just gather some references to add details or extra bits of interest! Hmm well my experience is that you end up doing 3/4 quite a bit because they give you a lot bang for your buck, they allow for nice silhouettes and interesting variety, showing depth. Frontal are how we are used to see stuff thus why are more easily relatable for a viewer, less confusing. But you should do what you think you want for a piece, whatever that may be. That's my 2 cents anyhow.

Are those below also extra sketches you did? Those look quite good compared with the previous!

The HB pencil I like how it looks! it does look like a pencil! I want one but I use CLIP ha. I don't see an issue with the 3D model, to me looks like a scan of someone? Maybe I'm wrong. Anyhow studying poses is good but try to also do them from memory. A lot. And when you feel like some don't look right you study some more and try again. But I would say if you don't have a bit of confidence with construction is gonna be a tad hard to place things in space later, from your head, you should maybe do a bit of construction to begin with. How do you do drawing cubes and planes and stuff like that, that recede in view and so on?

[Demon Lizardman]

Good looking sketches man, can't wait to see what you whip up next!

[bluehabit]

Like I mentioned earlier, trying to be much more loose studies, do much more sketching and much less painting / rendering. I am trying to do some cat studies for a possible illustration attempt. I was trying to exaggerate the cats expressions a bit, and they look a little cartoony but I am still satisfied with how they came out. Painting for me is my strongest attribute in art right now. My imaginative stuff / sketches need much more work and are suffering because of this. The two skills are very uneven right now. As a result, I am going to switch gears, not be so rigid and do a much larger volume of sketches.





@Demon Lizardman, thanks man!

@Rotohail, Thank you for the kind words! Yes you are right, I just need to do pages and pages of gestures, quick sketches, redraw studies from memory, imagine poses etc - build up that muscle memory. Yes all of those are my sketches digital and in my sketchbook. Yes those are 3D scans of people. Doing primitives in perspective, actually I have done a ton of that, you can see some of that in my earlier posts. I was getting so rigid with it at one point that was like 75% of my art time and it just got ridiculous so im going back to sketching to loosen up a lot more.