04-27-2016, 10:13 AM
Firstly thanks a ton for the indepth crit, I don't usually get them :).
It's interesting that you don't like the composition though, amiit and piotr actually said it had some of the better action of them, I like it myself though I think the values and my perspective held it back from my original idea, I wanted it to all be mostly dark(but not pitch black) barring the light on the creatures face and the two people but i'm terrible at values and could'nt shade it correctly either, I also did'nt think the lantern in the final piece was close enough to his face so I toned it down, I probbly should've just exaggerated the lighting from that though.
About the pencil strokes, yep trying to get better at that currently :), i have a bad habit of drawing loads of lines before thinking about how to place them, this piece is actually what got me to start trying to think more about my lines and take up the dynamic sketching excercises.
About the perspective stuff yeah..i actually did'nt do any studies for that background I was'nt sure what to do with it up till the final piece and in the end just had to throw together a few builidings midway through the piece 2 hours or so before the deadline so that's why I did'nt apply much of the scott robertson stuff XD, I actually planned to set it in a graveyard, the right guys coat was a tattered one that I thought would fit a gravedigger it looks like shabby victorian clothing to me in the refsheet but I think I had trouble conveying it's design for the final peice.
This is also why I did'nt have any architecture ref on that ref sheet, to busy panicking to get it done in time XD.
the second light as well was also just improvised at the last moment.
I also have a lot of issues trying to figure out organic forms in perspective, paticularly diagonal forms that don't go towards the vanishing point, the creatures body also confused the hell out of me, I could'nt even simplify it correctly.
Good idea on the posterize layer idea, can I do that out of photoshop though since I no longer have a subscription to it, I am gonna try a 1-4 value study of the next piece I do for crucible though, I tried to do a full range value thumbnail for this and that mixed with my lack of understanding of the forms made it terrible.
Oh and i'll try that rendering thumbnail idea as well, I think my issues here then where defineitly perspective, value and a big lack of planning in certain areas such as the thumbnails.
Once again thanks a ton for taking the time to give such a great critique :).
It's interesting that you don't like the composition though, amiit and piotr actually said it had some of the better action of them, I like it myself though I think the values and my perspective held it back from my original idea, I wanted it to all be mostly dark(but not pitch black) barring the light on the creatures face and the two people but i'm terrible at values and could'nt shade it correctly either, I also did'nt think the lantern in the final piece was close enough to his face so I toned it down, I probbly should've just exaggerated the lighting from that though.
About the pencil strokes, yep trying to get better at that currently :), i have a bad habit of drawing loads of lines before thinking about how to place them, this piece is actually what got me to start trying to think more about my lines and take up the dynamic sketching excercises.
About the perspective stuff yeah..i actually did'nt do any studies for that background I was'nt sure what to do with it up till the final piece and in the end just had to throw together a few builidings midway through the piece 2 hours or so before the deadline so that's why I did'nt apply much of the scott robertson stuff XD, I actually planned to set it in a graveyard, the right guys coat was a tattered one that I thought would fit a gravedigger it looks like shabby victorian clothing to me in the refsheet but I think I had trouble conveying it's design for the final peice.
This is also why I did'nt have any architecture ref on that ref sheet, to busy panicking to get it done in time XD.
the second light as well was also just improvised at the last moment.
I also have a lot of issues trying to figure out organic forms in perspective, paticularly diagonal forms that don't go towards the vanishing point, the creatures body also confused the hell out of me, I could'nt even simplify it correctly.
Good idea on the posterize layer idea, can I do that out of photoshop though since I no longer have a subscription to it, I am gonna try a 1-4 value study of the next piece I do for crucible though, I tried to do a full range value thumbnail for this and that mixed with my lack of understanding of the forms made it terrible.
Oh and i'll try that rendering thumbnail idea as well, I think my issues here then where defineitly perspective, value and a big lack of planning in certain areas such as the thumbnails.
Once again thanks a ton for taking the time to give such a great critique :).
