What Is & Isn't A Fundamental.

[OtherMuzz]

simplification and abstraction

Abstraction and simplification are totally different concepts in this context, simplification is reducing information, abstraction is adding new information to get a different understanding or representation of the information. I'm not arguing against simplification, but I prefer the word isolation to simplification here.

I'm sure you've seen people who learned 'formulas' on how to do linework, construct a body, shade a form, etc. and who then apply that same process to everything they do. Sure, their endresults look finished, but they are limited by their tools to those kinds of results. They can't improve beyond a certain point, because their process is a dead end.

I've actually never seen somebody with perfect form or proportion with these properties. If you are following a formula (in the way you are talking) then they don't understand it plain and simple. But if you have any specific examples of such people, I'd love to see them.

Again this all comes back to, if you can't draw a box how can you expect to draw a human.

Also, I've got to say and i only mention it because it is directly relevant to this conversation, but looking at your drawings, your understanding of form and proportion are still developmental. So i want to ask you, what is your plan on improving these things? This conversation directly relates to struggles you currently have with your own art, so even if the advice you follow isn't mine, there is something you need to sit down and work out.