09-05-2019, 05:13 PM
(09-04-2019, 11:45 PM)Fedodika Wrote: as usual id reccomend you spend more time learning structure as you already have some chops in rendering and values. your kiki composition with the large city in the background would look so nice if you had the line drawing skills to show say a nice billowing drapery, more refined sense of proportions/anatomy. When i was coming up I did a lot of the same things, painting painting painting, not taking drawing seriously.
Its easy to get the idea that just good rendering will take you all the way but it wont. People resonate with strong drawings, and the drawing itself should be 80% as strong as the final image imo, relying on color is a crutch. I know youre having fun, but soo sooo soo many of the isues you have in painting are easily resolved by just focusing on strucure and anatomy etc. you'll save sooo much time and struggle just going for the jugular on that, i promise
I'd rather learn structure and anatomy in the process of making images rather than focusing only on that. I've never cared for accuracy in drawing and I treat figures as just abstract shapes to compliment the background. I don't necessarily think getting Sir Lawrence Alma Tadema style drapery and life like appearance would make my images better. Look at this new image I'm working on as an example:
![[Image: 24kcZjp.png]](https://i.imgur.com/24kcZjp.png)
when I drew the legs like this all I was thinking about was how I wanted to make the whole body out of big round shapes because it looks cool to me. It's obvious the legs are not being connected anywhere and feet are bending in impossible ways but I like the overall shape and changing that would take away from my original intentions. Same with with her clothes, obviously that's not how they would look like in real life but it makes for a cool shape so why change it?
I think we just have different goals when it comes to art with you being much more focused on character design stuff and me being much more in to environments and the image as a whole and that's why when you see this you focus in on how she has baboon hands and no fingers while I'm only thinking about how that damn tower is messing with the composition and making the image heavier on one side :D
You talk about how before you used to do the same things as me but I don't think that's the case, going back on your sketchbook I see mostly portraits and characters and that's in a big part what you are still doing just decided to focus much more on the drawing part (which is smart). Go back to my early posts on this thread and you'll see it's the exact opposite, mostly environments and when there are figures they are just a small part of a bigger image, only thing that's changed is I used to go straight in to painting while now I make a pretty tight sketch before starting.
So I guess my point is I don't want to focus on something I don't value and rather get better at it over time while focusing on the stuff that interests me and the issues that you see are different than the ones I care about. Also this whole post isn't meant as a jab, to be offensive, to try and prove I'm right in some way or anything like that it's more of a shitpost of the way I think about these things. (and c'mon give me a break I know I suck at drawing but you can't say I'm not getting better at it T.T )