11-05-2021, 08:16 AM
I think i understand your perspective on it, except for this part tbh:
That's.... exactly how it is? Is it not? People work tirelessly at sports, and for that matter chess, the culinary arts, music, ballet etc. etc. Science is more of a necessity for humanity than a kind of competition, but people dedicate themselves to it in similar ways nonetheless. And Beauty, though it may not be equal with the advancement of science, is a public good as well. Drawing is another thing which you can give that kind of energy to. Jeff Watts in his lectures often refers to training in art in this way, comparing it to martial arts.
Why do people even do martial arts, or sports, or art? Does any of it really matter? I don't know, it's just something you can work toward if you feel so inclined. For some people it's not what gives their life purpose, and that's fine. For me, I don't really want to be content with my work, I don't want to be 'good enough'! it isn't what gives me direction. If there's nothing to improve, then there's nothing to change, and if there's nothing to change then there's nothing to do, and that's boring. And obviously I don't want to be disgusted with myself all the time either, criticism is a balance.
I will admit that my comment before sounded kind of cynical and even depressing, as if drawing is drudgery, or I'm doing it begrudgingly. It's really not. But it is also true that there are things you have to do sometimes which you don't really enjoy in the moment, but you still have to do them. In other words I wouldn't really say that it is always fun, or supposed to be fun, just necessary. It's like, I love cooking, but I hate chopping stuff up. But if I want to cook I have to chop stuff up. There's some parts of academic art, like figure drawing, that even if i hated doing it (I don't), I just have to so that's that. That's kind of the point I was trying to make in response to darktiste.
But I definitely agree that there is an element of art that is fun, that explores without pressure, that is creative. Yeah, absolutely you are right.
one_two Wrote: And for me excitement doesn't equal hard work. Maybe if it's a scientific research or you're chasing some achievements in sports, hard work is the thing.
That's.... exactly how it is? Is it not? People work tirelessly at sports, and for that matter chess, the culinary arts, music, ballet etc. etc. Science is more of a necessity for humanity than a kind of competition, but people dedicate themselves to it in similar ways nonetheless. And Beauty, though it may not be equal with the advancement of science, is a public good as well. Drawing is another thing which you can give that kind of energy to. Jeff Watts in his lectures often refers to training in art in this way, comparing it to martial arts.
Why do people even do martial arts, or sports, or art? Does any of it really matter? I don't know, it's just something you can work toward if you feel so inclined. For some people it's not what gives their life purpose, and that's fine. For me, I don't really want to be content with my work, I don't want to be 'good enough'! it isn't what gives me direction. If there's nothing to improve, then there's nothing to change, and if there's nothing to change then there's nothing to do, and that's boring. And obviously I don't want to be disgusted with myself all the time either, criticism is a balance.
I will admit that my comment before sounded kind of cynical and even depressing, as if drawing is drudgery, or I'm doing it begrudgingly. It's really not. But it is also true that there are things you have to do sometimes which you don't really enjoy in the moment, but you still have to do them. In other words I wouldn't really say that it is always fun, or supposed to be fun, just necessary. It's like, I love cooking, but I hate chopping stuff up. But if I want to cook I have to chop stuff up. There's some parts of academic art, like figure drawing, that even if i hated doing it (I don't), I just have to so that's that. That's kind of the point I was trying to make in response to darktiste.
But I definitely agree that there is an element of art that is fun, that explores without pressure, that is creative. Yeah, absolutely you are right.