Joseph's shiny new sketchbook

[JosephCow]

Can we resume this conversation to don't be a headless chicken banging is head endlessly doing the same thing over and over?

Haha am I the headless chicken in that analogy? I think if one were to try the same thing over and over again with no change, and no progress, then it's futile head banging, yes. But if one is making headway then it is the complete opposite. Have I made no progress? I feel like this is kinda working for me, but maybe I'm just that delusional.

How long is someone allowed to work on the fundamentals before it becomes useless in your opinion? I agree there is so much more to art than correct drawing. But is correct drawing worth spending a few years trying to acquire? in my opinion, yes. 1000% yes!

What is technical skill without storytelling?Which one come first and which one is more important i don't think this is where the debate is at because it a balance.

It's a good question. It depends on the artist. Some artists only have a subject matter at all as an excuse to create some attractive arrangement of colors and shapes. I don't see anything wrong with that. Some artists create compelling stories with relatively simple means, maybe even with crude cartoon drawings. Personally, I think the drawing skill is more important. The thing is, everyone's got ideas. Some are more compelling than others, but at the end of the day you have to be able to realize those ideas into a picture that is attractive. That tends to be why people hire artists in the first place, for their skill at depicting things. For me, most of the paintings I really love, they might have good story-telling, but it's actually their appearance that makes me interested in the first place. The composition, the color, the expression of form etc. if they weren't well painted I wouldn't really care.

And if you look at history, the artwork that seems to stand the test of time often has obscure subject matter that we no longer even care about. They stand strong on purely aesthetic merit. But story telling and execution absolutely go together and depend on each other to make a really great work of art.

What i observed when it come to your creative side is that you seem to only favor it when there a challenge attach to it.Because most of what you produce that i would describe as outside your normal study are those piece from those challenge and you even choose those work as content for a portfolio. The portfolio can be two thing in my mind. It can be the work you want to be hire for or it can be what you want to show off as your best work or simply what you want to showcase regardless in your case what would you say is the use of your portfolio?

When i observe the portofolio to me it seem like you are more about showcasing thing as trophy.

Which to me just seem to indicate that you are look for justification to do more imaginative work and by that i mean that challenge is the way you step outside of your comfort zone in your case.

You may be pathologizing me a bit. I like a challenge, it's fun, it's an incentive to try something different. It's not like I'm obsessed with winning or something lol. To tell the truth I just haven't done that many finished digital pieces recently so that's just kind of what I have right now. Are they super creative and groundbreaking? eh, no. But I came up with some ideas and followed through on them, that's at least worth something.

I think a portfolio is just a collection of your work, whatever work is relevant. I have never thought of it as a trophy case, but actually that's not a terrible way to think of it. I'm not really sure if you are trying to say that's a bad thing or not. Like is it bad to show off your best work?

From what i read i would say 3. Competence Motivation:, toward the human body as a speciality.

I think that actually describes me really well. But I also think that describes almost every person. Who doesn't want to be competent? I guess there are some people that are kind of just happy to be along for the ride, but. I think most people are motivated by desire to be good at something, among other things.
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