04-15-2025, 04:04 AM
The addition of the window is a good call but ultimately i think a better composition would have done a lot more. The addition of the hair even if i feel as a purpose now conflict with a clear gesture she almost become like a ball of hair and arm if you had only shown me this stage i would have a problem knowing what i am looking at which is often what happen with extreme foreshorten where many body part hide what behind itself .
See how in this reference picture they split the frame to include a clear ground plane as well as make the ''surface'' spider men sit on mostly glass to help establish direction. The gesture is clear every leg and arm add dynamism and clarity they don't overlap to a degree with the action loose it punch or become unclear .The fact your character had hair required a bit of addition planning but also made this piece so much harder because where do you find hair reference for such a pose...
I think some of the take away is using reference can be limiting to what you can put inside the composition to establish a clear context. At this point what hurting you is relying so heavily on those reference. I feel it only normal that you feel burn by what i am saying your face with a choose do you keep relying heavily on reference or do you move away from that and go down the hard road. There a use to reference let make no mistake it to establish context not to constrain your option.
Try to avoid tunnel vision when you have a reference and i personally would say stay away from gesture reference they are the one who will hurt the most when you need to move thing around . Reference are great for inspiration but it my personal opinion that they are for inspiration they also are not bad to study from just not be carbon copy.
The problem of illustration is prep work not being willing to do thumbnailing is for me a problem it show you are lagging behind in gesture and working from imagination. Maybe what you forgot to do was to also find example such as the one i show here to fill the gap.So really my advise is if you want to use reference try not to limit yourself to one only. Your anatomy should be strong enough that your not getting the anatomy correct from the reference alone .The reference are more for an idea of the general proportion and gesture you want to materialize.
Moving on from this project is what i advise to do the problem i am bring up should have been address at much earlier stage but it often to late for me to do any meaningful feedback due to the feedback format.
I wish you the best growth possible i think keeping thing honesty on my part and repeating what i think is best practice is the least i can do to try to break a habit that in my personal belief is hindering growth.
Let be positive for a second look at the bright side you have room for growth.
See how in this reference picture they split the frame to include a clear ground plane as well as make the ''surface'' spider men sit on mostly glass to help establish direction. The gesture is clear every leg and arm add dynamism and clarity they don't overlap to a degree with the action loose it punch or become unclear .The fact your character had hair required a bit of addition planning but also made this piece so much harder because where do you find hair reference for such a pose...
I think some of the take away is using reference can be limiting to what you can put inside the composition to establish a clear context. At this point what hurting you is relying so heavily on those reference. I feel it only normal that you feel burn by what i am saying your face with a choose do you keep relying heavily on reference or do you move away from that and go down the hard road. There a use to reference let make no mistake it to establish context not to constrain your option.
Try to avoid tunnel vision when you have a reference and i personally would say stay away from gesture reference they are the one who will hurt the most when you need to move thing around . Reference are great for inspiration but it my personal opinion that they are for inspiration they also are not bad to study from just not be carbon copy.
The problem of illustration is prep work not being willing to do thumbnailing is for me a problem it show you are lagging behind in gesture and working from imagination. Maybe what you forgot to do was to also find example such as the one i show here to fill the gap.So really my advise is if you want to use reference try not to limit yourself to one only. Your anatomy should be strong enough that your not getting the anatomy correct from the reference alone .The reference are more for an idea of the general proportion and gesture you want to materialize.
Moving on from this project is what i advise to do the problem i am bring up should have been address at much earlier stage but it often to late for me to do any meaningful feedback due to the feedback format.
I wish you the best growth possible i think keeping thing honesty on my part and repeating what i think is best practice is the least i can do to try to break a habit that in my personal belief is hindering growth.
Let be positive for a second look at the bright side you have room for growth.