08-23-2014, 10:45 PM
(08-23-2014, 05:07 AM)Tristan Berndt Wrote: Speed shouldn't factor into your abstraction of a gesture drawing. I'm not saying that you should sketch exactly what type of joint there is in gesture drawing. What I am saying is that a gesture drawing is an abstraction of the human body and it seems like you're doing yourself a disservice in the way you handle that.
If you take a look at several of the big anatomy teachers (Bridgman, Loomis, Vanderpoel, Vilppu, Hogarth and all those guys) none of them apply a method similar to what you're doing and for good reason. I don't want to tell you that what you're doing is wrong because there is no "wrong" or right way to do any of that but I'd advise you to consider other methods that have proven to help countless students for several years.
I strongly advice you to study the methods of great anatomy teachers because I genuinely believe that it will be beneficial to your learning. A lot of learning anatomy comes from studying the methods of classical artists, not just drawing the figure as you see it.
I sat here for quite a while thinking on how best to reply to this without sounding defensive. The bottom line of my issue with this criticism is that you haven't really explained to me how this is detrimental. You said "none of them apply a similar method to what your doing and for good reason" without explaining what that reason is. In your earlier critique you say that the sphere isn't signifying the kind of joint is there, such as ball and socket in the shoulder or thigh, but we've established that's not what I'm using them for, that they are simply marker points for a pivot point and what kind of pivot point that is is fleshed out later in the drawing. You mention artists such as Loomis and Vanderpoel and I took a look at there figure drawings and most of them are at least three hours or more in length. While you say time is not a factor the very opposite has been hammered into me since my enrollment in art education. I appreciate you taking the time to critique and if you could elaborate more on why you think having this shorthand guide is so hurtful in the long run perhaps I could see your point of view more clearly.
some stuff from yesterday
