Lost,Tired, need some help !
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(01-03-2016, 08:25 AM)Amit Dutta Wrote: Ok, so rule 6 definitely applies to your comments on heads/faces.  Right now your mental side seems a bit too noisy and frustrated to be able to judge your own work well.  

They do look human, the proportions and structure aren't as bad as you are making them out to be. I do see a tendency in those recent sketches to exaggerate the face area/size in comparison with the cranium a tiny bit. Perhaps some skull study and mapping features onto those skulls would help. Looking at books only won't give you the knowledge, you have to find a way to burn the proportions into your brain through your own practice, which generally means doing things thoughtfully with careful analysis.  

Can I ask you to say specifically what you think is busted with those faces, besides the blanket statement? Might be helpful

Have you tried the Reilly method? There isn't a lot out there formally on how to do it, but you can find some resources online. Watts Online courses have the full deal. I find the Reilly rhythms and lines to be very helpful with proportion and placcement. Perhaps you need to go into a tutored environment for a while (if you haven't before) to take the stress off yourself of not knowing whether you are doing the right thing.

In reply to your other comment, there is lots of point to trying to finish work, despite it's flaws, because that is a skill in itself, and provides valuable insight into where you need to upskill to deal with the areas that caused you particular problems. As a professional artist, you have to be able to finish work...or you won't get paid, so it is hardly a waste of time to start practicing the entire process. Also teaches materials and rendering and patience, and pushing past burnout and the desire to not want to look at a piece anymore. Not to mention how you imagine you will actually be developing a folio as you go, if you don't bother to finish a single piece!

Have a think about it man. And yeah, you are way too hard on yourself for it to be used in a constructive way right now. Check that a little bit. Identify (honestly!), Prioritise, Attack. Forget the anguish shit...it's pointless.

Yeah man thanks for the help, I guess what I see wrong with the heads I draw is they don't look like actual human realistic proportions, academic wise they just look off. I'm not sure If I'm drawing them wrong or if I'm just sketching them to fast or what. I've drawn Reilly abstractions I've used them, same results. It's like even from reference, my heads, they still have this cartoony look that I don't want, I love stylized work don't get me wrong but the type of stuff I want to produce is more realistic proportionally.  For instance a favorite artist of  mine Andrew Ryan, one of his http://img12.deviantart.net/eab4/i/2013/...5lq8wr.jpg. The head proportions are sooooooooooo good. His work is thousands of miles better then my stuff but I really just want those foundational skills of drawing accurate realistic head proportions. I will start on rendering since it is something I need,bad. I've noticed every painting will get to the same point, I did one yesterday. This scratchy look, it's not cute haha.  I will defiantly ease into rendering for long periods of time starting with still life and then move up from there after I get used to it.

Thanks for the help man !
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Lost,Tired, need some help ! - by ChaseNNN - 01-01-2016, 06:50 AM
RE: Lost,Tired, need some help ! - by Amit Dutta - 01-01-2016, 07:30 PM
RE: Lost,Tired, need some help ! - by ChaseNNN - 01-02-2016, 01:43 PM
RE: Lost,Tired, need some help ! - by Amit Dutta - 01-03-2016, 08:25 AM
RE: Lost,Tired, need some help ! - by ChaseNNN - 01-05-2016, 01:06 AM
RE: Lost,Tired, need some help ! - by Amit Dutta - 01-05-2016, 06:04 AM
RE: Lost,Tired, need some help ! - by ChaseNNN - 01-19-2016, 02:53 PM
RE: Lost,Tired, need some help ! - by Amit Dutta - 01-19-2016, 03:04 PM

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