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You have a great sense of observation but i feel you need to draw more from life and paint less so you can get rid of those stiff figure that if you would like to improving your gesture.

On the topic of the lion he feel almost comical i suspect that not the style your after from what i see you do typically i would encourage you to use more reference when you tackling something your not familiar with specially if you are not gonna do any preparatory study of subject unfamiliar to you.

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Darktiste, yeah, a photo i posted is a block in, it's pretty far from what i want the finished painting to look like. There's plenty of ref material for the lion as well, it's just a beginning stage. Here's a sketch for this painting i posted last year. 


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Looking incredible! The painting is very well drawn, very strong composition and the environment looks very natural. Looking forward to more progress!

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Thank you, CG, it's still work in progress though, plenty of things to fix


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Your loosing the expression of the lion .The fur need a better treatment right now it goes to fast into the small detail. Not an expert on what brush might be better suited for fur in traditional painting but i suppose  it most likely a ''flat brush'' with some kind of twisting motion involve to go from large clump to small clump. There probably plenty of lion painting video out there to source for brush technique.

You got really nice quality in the skin in that preparatory digital version. But i am not sure of your contrast in color so far specially the cloth it feel like you should have hit darker dark in the prep sketch. For that reason i can't really feel the ''cloth'' quality of a jean that characteristic like when a fabric is of a certain thickness and weight specially where the jean meet the shoe normally the gradient of fold as the fabric drap down onto itself at least create little more noticeability deeper fold. That would also be true of the crotch region as the fabric really build tension around there i feel it just not there yet in term of committing enough to bring up those region to similar ''level of render'' it might be intentional i don't know how much you want to push toward realism so anyways that my 2 cent.

Good luck and keep up the good work.


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(07-28-2025, 10:13 PM)one_two Wrote: psh.psh

Hey, great job on this oil painting

I'm certain you learned a lot from it and it'll be great to see where you go from here

Keep up the great work   Thumbs_up

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Excellent work with the update, nice and clean and some really nice color variation. Only suggestion I have is to push textures a bit further to help make the image appear more interesting, as everything seems to be rendered with the same material. Excellent work otherwise!

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darktiste, thanks for commenting and pointing that out
smrr, thanks for stopping by to comment
CG, thanks 
So I did some adjustments to jeans and background so far. Maybe I'll change some other areas, don't know yet. For now, that's the current version.


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I feel like the back of the lion is overlapping in a manner where you loose is gesture it almost like a 2 leg lion. When i am thinking of overlap i try to avoid hiding to much of the object behind an other this help give weight and balance to gesture.

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Awesome to see some traditional art! Quite an ambitious project you have going! :D Something I would consider is having some of the leaves and foliage in the background "go behind" the silhouettes, that way you'll push those areas back in space, and the lion and figure will come forward a little bit more, helping with the sense of depth. If you think of the areas of foliage abstractly as large shapes, they are all sort of "dodging" the silhouettes of the lion and the human, making the image feel flatter. It does give a kind of more graphical flat look, which isn't bad in and of itself, but I don't think that's what you're going for, when looking at the overall approach.

My mind goes directly to the absolute daddy of academic art, Bouguereau, especially in the way you've handled the background. Something that I think you should consider is the visual hierarchy of the piece. Take a step back and ask yourself the question what you see FIRST when you look at your painting. Are your eyes drawn to the lions face first, or the figures face, or the hands, or the trees in the background? etc. Personally my eyes are instantly drawn towards the foliage, because of clearly drawn everything has been, the dark spaces between each individual leaf and just the overall contrast. I don't feel like that's the intention of the piece. To me it's clearly a portrait of a human and a lion, and not a painting about some leaves in the background. So I would absolutely look at how Bouguereau handled foliage and background elements. Don't be afraid of loosing some of that contrast you have going on and make it a bit more subtle. 

If this is done in oils, let those areas dry completely and afterwards I would start to scumble in some new leaves that will break up these dark areas around each leaf. Dilute the paints with a medium being like 50/50 oils/solvent, it depends on what kind of medium you've used elsewhere. If you've used a very oily medium before don't go in with a thinner medium on top. It can cause problems down the line. Good thing about oils and letting it dry completely is that if you're not a fan of the way it looks, the new leaves, you can simply wipe it off and go again. By going in and introducing the new leaves thinly allows you also to just try something out without huge consequences. If you like the way it's going, then you can start to introduce more opaque paint into those wet areas and painting wet in wet in oils, that's where so much of the yummy magic happens. This is how I approach oil painting at least, everyone will find their way but yeah. You know what I mean haha :P





Pay attention to how loosely Bouguereau handles foliage. I'm not saying I would go as soft (maybe I would haha, i absolutely love the Bougs) but I think something in-between your high contrast and his low contrast will be a huge improvement. For me personally it also comes down to the question of "will the viewer understand what this is?" and perhaps I don't HAVE to spill everything out so clearly. 



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darktiste, feels like a normal lion to me but you do have a point, thanks for commenting

maxilla, thanks for leaving a detailed feedback, couldn't agree more on the point you've mentioned. By the way, I did use some of Bouguereau's paintings as a reference for foliage, hence there's some similarity. 

I've done some glazing on the leaves and added some more smaller ones to break up the dark space in-between. Probably that's it for now but who knows. :)


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