IronSkeleton's sketches
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I think giving structure make more sense before you talk about feeling the form because intuition is build overtime will accuracy is the basis of correct intuition it the repetition of accuracy that become ingrain.

The box size give a contrast between the limb and the torso they help develop a proportional awareness .First the limb are represented rigid and over time bending are introduce as well as foreshortning.

Box are very good to give a direction to the different part of the body since they are planar and plane a better indication of x y z then a ball at first read. I simply suggest the box as the most basic geometric but any combination of primitive depending on the level of mastery can also work. The box being the easiest to measure and divide in perspective.

The goal of bounding box is not to use it as a rigid method of construction forever it more a tool to develop 3D perception and enable physical measurement that as a degree of accuracy so that the user can respect proportion in a scene without having an actual model on hand every time which help them progress overtime toward imaginative figure drawing
Removing the need of actual physically putting down guideline or relying on excessive reference gathering

By slowly alternating between session where you measure and session why you don't until ingrained yet still being intuitively accounted for. Yes you can argue that no body count the head when they draw the figure yet they intuitively do known to draw the torso not long or not draw the head to large. Why is that proportion...

Why complicate thing by reducing it to intuition alone when there is formula...

To me life drawing is mostly about being able to play around the form understanding it complexity but you can't gloss over the structure otherwise when it come to drawing (bending,foreshortning limb) there is no understanding of why something is out of proportion

Contour teach you nothing about how to reduce complex form into primitive. It by working from primitive or at least visualize them that you move toward being able to create organic form. That the basis of rotating form in space. Observation is sequential(to create a holographic image in your mind eye) but when youhave a idea from imagination you don't move around the object to observe it so you have to create a pretty simplistic representation of that object at first unless your at mastery level.

You learn nothing from line alone without anatomy and observation in the case of figure drawing. The line is an abstract cutout of a form it way to reductive of a bigger shape. For example you will never understand why the wrist change so little between skinny and fat person without a bit of anatomy. That line exercise make more sense to be pair with applying some shading because you actually get to learn what the relation that happen between those cross section.

The knee would be way to complex to draw form example memory for begginer without anatomical understanding of below the skin structure.

Live drawing can only get you so far you need a structure but not a structure that create rigidity in the figure. You need a lot of memory to remember structure anyways that why drawing specific complex anatomical detail require reference it just that you most likely will only get a reference that approximative so you need the structure to bridge the gap and identify the landmark that help place and establish a blueprint you loosely follow and adjust until it convincing.

First you learn to walk and then you learn to run. I think doing live drawing is good to help develop accurate figure from imagination but in reality it require more then just observation since you need to understand the principle of balance if you want to convincingly pose figure from imagination.

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IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 08-22-2021, 08:42 PM
RE: My sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 08-24-2021, 02:43 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 08-27-2021, 02:47 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by Mutley - 08-27-2021, 06:08 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by cgmythology - 08-27-2021, 06:16 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 08-28-2021, 03:16 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by Mutley - 08-31-2021, 08:48 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 08-31-2021, 03:01 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by Zorrentos - 09-01-2021, 02:41 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by Osya - 09-01-2021, 05:57 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 09-02-2021, 03:09 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by Zorrentos - 09-04-2021, 01:46 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by darktiste - 09-04-2021, 12:37 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 09-05-2021, 04:27 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by darktiste - 09-05-2021, 06:45 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 09-12-2021, 03:43 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by Zorrentos - 09-14-2021, 02:30 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 09-17-2021, 04:57 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by darktiste - 09-17-2021, 12:10 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 09-20-2021, 12:05 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 09-26-2021, 01:55 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by Daft Sketch - 09-26-2021, 07:07 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 10-08-2021, 04:37 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 02-02-2023, 09:41 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by Leo Ki - 02-03-2023, 12:55 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 02-05-2023, 01:28 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by Kilillan - 02-06-2023, 04:37 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by darktiste - 02-06-2023, 05:26 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 06-24-2024, 02:31 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by Lillen - 06-24-2024, 01:01 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 06-25-2024, 03:26 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by Komodo - 06-25-2024, 07:18 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 07-05-2024, 11:59 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by JosephCow - 07-06-2024, 03:05 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 07-06-2024, 04:42 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by JosephCow - 07-06-2024, 05:58 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 07-06-2024, 06:19 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 08-02-2024, 07:39 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by cgmythology - 08-03-2024, 10:19 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 09-24-2024, 01:50 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by darktiste - 09-24-2024, 10:32 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by IronSkeleton09 - 09-25-2024, 08:47 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by darktiste - 09-25-2024, 11:44 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by JosephCow - 09-27-2024, 09:06 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by darktiste - 09-27-2024, 02:27 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by Jephyr - 09-28-2024, 11:47 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by ruthwood - 10-05-2024, 11:54 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by Noone - 10-06-2024, 10:47 AM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by darktiste - 10-06-2024, 01:43 PM
RE: IronSkeleton's sketches - by Noone - 10-06-2024, 04:13 PM

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