05-21-2013, 01:09 PM
Hey mate, it's heading off in a better direction for sure. The rider especially is posed nicely and nice rendering on the lizard face. Good stuff.
To reply to your comment in a previous post about fundamentals, I don't think you should ever disregard how important keeping up with training the fundamentals are even when you've been doing it for a while. It's easy enough to understand the concepts and know them, but it's even easier to get complacent and not work on developing your skills in them or applying them to your work. I just learned this recently myself. I had believed that I was all down with the fundamentals at least in theory, but then when I stopped and challenged myself and really focused on developing these in every piece and getting it right I immediately leveled up in my finished product. So practice in technique for drawing and rendering and building memory and a visual library is all good, but really don't forget the groundwork because it is even more important.
Most issues with images are down to some fundamental or other not working so definitely don't fool yourself into thinking you've nailed it, but at least you know what to work on having got a grounding in it from school :) And to follow on from there...
Couple of quick points. I examined your value scheme by desaturating the image. The red circles have the corresponding value of the area encircled.(5/100 ie almost black). You'll notice that you're not getting as much of a feeling of depth to your image as you could and that's because you have values in the midground that are just as dark as values in the foreground. The general rule of course is that things are lighter getting darker the closer to the viewpoint you get. So you've actually put the foreground rocks value wise exactly in the same depth of areas of the rider. Also some of the rider's cape and face are 0 value, so they technically should be the closest to the canvas. That and the brightness in contrast between the lightest value of the lizard hide (70+) makes for a bit too much contrast and a lack of consistency in depth. I readjusted the background to midground to show a transition in value from lighter to dark and made sure this was different to the darkest foreground. It just helps everything read a bit better in depth.
Apologies I might be a bit off in the final adjustment, I did this on a really rubbish work monitor.
![[Image: paintover_miconi_by_m0nkeybread-d6606fh.jpg]](http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2013/140/6/c/paintover_miconi_by_m0nkeybread-d6606fh.jpg)
To reply to your comment in a previous post about fundamentals, I don't think you should ever disregard how important keeping up with training the fundamentals are even when you've been doing it for a while. It's easy enough to understand the concepts and know them, but it's even easier to get complacent and not work on developing your skills in them or applying them to your work. I just learned this recently myself. I had believed that I was all down with the fundamentals at least in theory, but then when I stopped and challenged myself and really focused on developing these in every piece and getting it right I immediately leveled up in my finished product. So practice in technique for drawing and rendering and building memory and a visual library is all good, but really don't forget the groundwork because it is even more important.
Most issues with images are down to some fundamental or other not working so definitely don't fool yourself into thinking you've nailed it, but at least you know what to work on having got a grounding in it from school :) And to follow on from there...
Couple of quick points. I examined your value scheme by desaturating the image. The red circles have the corresponding value of the area encircled.(5/100 ie almost black). You'll notice that you're not getting as much of a feeling of depth to your image as you could and that's because you have values in the midground that are just as dark as values in the foreground. The general rule of course is that things are lighter getting darker the closer to the viewpoint you get. So you've actually put the foreground rocks value wise exactly in the same depth of areas of the rider. Also some of the rider's cape and face are 0 value, so they technically should be the closest to the canvas. That and the brightness in contrast between the lightest value of the lizard hide (70+) makes for a bit too much contrast and a lack of consistency in depth. I readjusted the background to midground to show a transition in value from lighter to dark and made sure this was different to the darkest foreground. It just helps everything read a bit better in depth.
Apologies I might be a bit off in the final adjustment, I did this on a really rubbish work monitor.