Peter's Sketchbook
(10-29-2019, 03:02 AM)Tristan Berndt Wrote: When it comes to your painting. A practical thing I sometimes do if I have the time for it, is once I've done my drawing, I paint it in with some dark color with turps. Once it's dry, I can paint very feely over it without loosing the drawing as long as I keep things semi transparent. It keeps you from having those very hesitant marks near edges.

I would recommend not thinning down your paint so much, especially on smaller paintings. On a small painting you need the paint to grip the brush a bit so you can actually work with it wet into wet without causing a mess. If your tubed paint is all soft (like most of them are) spread it out on some newspapers or something and let it rest to get rid of all the extra oil. Your paint in the pic is so thin it doesn't fully cover the canvas and it looks like it's causing you issues.

About the colors: Part of the reason the "Zorn palette" is used as an introductory palette is to teach students to have a relative approach to color. If you can't paint a bright green as a color, you have to shift all other colors away to make room for it in a relative sense. I make a lot of landscape paintings making green with just ochre and ultramarine and it gives me a very weak green but I just shift the relative colors to either be more warm or cool and it looks perfectly natural. So instead a green color being green, it's now a blue-ish green, a warm green is a green, and a cool green is blue, yellow becomes grey and so on. That's sort of the whole point with it. Going "oh I can't paint that color" is the thing you're trying to learn how to overcome. It's maybe a bit weird at first but it really comes in handy. What you could have done (if I understand the setup) was to paint the bright reflective green as white and gone for a more purple skin tone.

I would really like to encourage you to look at some artists that approach things differently from how you're currently doing things (specifically, non modern artists). It worries me that you don't really seem to be looking at the subjects you're drawing and painting. It's kind of like you're just using them as a general guide for a drawing from your imagination rather than really observing the subject and drawing it faithfully. I really think this stylised approach you're doing is getting in your way and it's super common to have this problem with the Watts people because they don't really care that much about accurate observations... But you can choose to care and I think being a bit less dogmatic about outlining, marking off the shadow with a literal line, having some kind of predetermined construction, forcing it into some preconceived ideas about gesture, could do you some good. Maybe instead just try to look and be very honest when trying to represent it just the way you see it. Look at Repin paintings for example. There's no stylised dogma he follows, no fancy brushwork or special blending. It's just him trying to put the right color in the right spot. Any idea he has about form, gesture or whatever is entirely secondary to what he's actually seeing.

About your question, I think it's helpful to sometimes just split learning into 3 subjects. Theory, observation and technique. Theory is all the perspective, anatomy, color theory and so on. Observation is just your ability to see accurately, to see what needs to change in order to make your drawing accurate and all that, often I tie this to drawing, color and values. Technique is putting observations into practice, can you make the paint come off the brush in the way you want and that kind of stuff. If you think of art like this, learning is a lot simpler. It doesn't matter if you're doing a figure drawing or a landscape, you're often trying to train something that is a skill independent of the specific subject, something more fundamental.

If I were to put them into a hierarchy then it would be observation at the top far above all others, technique next and at the bottom theory. You don't technically need theory if your other two abilities are strong enough but it can often help, like in the example with the zorn palette. If you're into imaginative drawing, like I also am, then you kind of need to get all 3 really good but observation is the limiting factor. The better it is, the more you'll be able to learn in the other categories.

So a master study is generally great for technique and can help a bit with some theory, at least how it ties into practice but there's no real point in doing one if your goal is to train your observation abilities. Observation abilities are trained when you try to draw anything accurately and continually correct your errors so doing a master study doesn't have any inherent advantage in training it. If you're into technique, then master studies are great because you can try to find ways to emulate theirs through close study. So I'd say master studies are about learning how to put your abilities into practice.

Now if this makes no sense to you, feel free to ignore it, but it any of it resonates, it could be worth thinking about. I'm not trying to say that a certain way of doing something is completely wrong, but I think it's useful to be skeptical about very constrained and dogmatic approaches to "good art". They can be useful at times but also a hinderance at others, like I suspect it is now.

The main issue I'm having with oil paints is that I'm treating turps as if it is what water is to watercolours or goauche if that makes any sense? I was thinking that you use turps to thi the paitn down so it's easier to apply and that you do that for the whole paitning which is completely wrong. My understanding of oil paint is very lacking since I haven't put the time in to understand it. I started watching a muddycolors video on oil paitning which goes over the tools and materials and I've found that help clarify alot of issues that I was having. I think  I just need to understand it more rather than going in blind so to speak. Same with the zorn palette, perhaps reading about it more will help me make sense of it.

Are there any good resources that helped you with understanding how to paint and how colours work? I'd say out of everything it is by far my greatest weakness but unsure where to start to learn more about it.

I do try and draw what I see in front of me and be focused on what I'm doing, perhaps I'm focusing wrong? When you talk about taking a different approach what approach do you mean exactly? Are you talking more of an atleier way of drawing of drawing the outline shape first and breaking the lines down into straight lines (Dorien Itens guide for example), or just other resources in general? I'd say the main reason why I study Watts is, apart from liking their work, is that I'm more interested in illustration which is geared more towards the construction approach (atleast the works that I like).

I think I understand the points you make, might need sometime to think about it some more and let it sink in, is it alrigh to pm you a bunch of questions if I have any, and probably will?

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Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-07-2017, 06:25 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Artloader - 02-07-2017, 09:38 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-09-2017, 06:22 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-09-2017, 06:35 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by VoodooMama - 02-10-2017, 01:18 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-13-2017, 06:45 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-13-2017, 06:55 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by NoodleInBox - 02-14-2017, 02:38 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-16-2017, 07:26 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by NoodleInBox - 02-16-2017, 09:55 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-20-2017, 07:54 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-23-2017, 08:13 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Artloader - 02-23-2017, 09:49 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-27-2017, 06:30 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-06-2017, 02:00 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-16-2017, 10:52 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-16-2017, 10:59 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Pinshivic - 03-17-2017, 08:16 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by alexdanila - 03-28-2017, 11:41 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-21-2017, 08:51 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-21-2017, 09:22 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-09-2017, 07:13 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-14-2017, 11:20 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Artloader - 05-19-2017, 04:25 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-23-2017, 11:00 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-11-2017, 08:08 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-05-2017, 06:32 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-08-2017, 07:03 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-09-2017, 06:52 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-11-2017, 07:32 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-12-2017, 07:00 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-15-2017, 07:15 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-19-2017, 07:25 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-26-2017, 07:05 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-27-2017, 08:12 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-30-2017, 07:17 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-02-2017, 08:08 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-07-2017, 08:21 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-09-2017, 06:18 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-15-2017, 01:05 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-19-2017, 08:07 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by rikudousen - 09-20-2017, 02:26 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-27-2017, 08:28 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-02-2017, 06:34 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-05-2017, 11:42 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-10-2017, 07:16 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-14-2017, 05:01 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-21-2017, 05:30 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-23-2017, 05:25 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-25-2017, 06:43 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-01-2017, 08:01 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Matthew M - 11-01-2017, 03:40 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-03-2017, 07:57 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-03-2017, 08:04 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Matthew M - 11-03-2017, 08:44 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-06-2017, 07:17 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-06-2017, 07:25 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Adzerak - 11-06-2017, 08:09 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-08-2017, 07:50 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-08-2017, 07:56 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by gregorkari - 11-08-2017, 09:34 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-14-2017, 07:30 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-14-2017, 07:44 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-16-2017, 08:27 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-20-2017, 04:56 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-21-2017, 07:17 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Adzerak - 11-22-2017, 11:55 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-30-2017, 08:08 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-30-2017, 08:15 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by cicakkia - 12-01-2017, 02:48 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 12-05-2017, 07:57 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 12-05-2017, 08:09 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 12-07-2017, 08:26 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 12-14-2017, 08:14 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Matthew M - 12-16-2017, 09:51 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 12-24-2017, 07:54 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 12-24-2017, 08:11 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Amit Dutta - 12-24-2017, 08:17 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-02-2018, 07:20 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-02-2018, 07:47 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-04-2018, 05:23 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-05-2018, 07:42 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-09-2018, 08:06 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-10-2018, 07:34 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 01-11-2018, 02:11 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-16-2018, 06:45 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-16-2018, 07:20 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-17-2018, 08:30 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 01-19-2018, 03:02 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-21-2018, 07:51 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-21-2018, 08:02 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by IrishWhiskey - 01-21-2018, 10:44 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-22-2018, 06:31 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-22-2018, 06:32 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 01-22-2018, 01:32 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-01-2018, 07:32 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-01-2018, 07:49 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-05-2018, 04:57 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 02-05-2018, 07:45 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-08-2018, 07:07 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-08-2018, 07:15 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 02-08-2018, 07:43 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-09-2018, 07:09 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-09-2018, 07:13 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Gueko - 02-09-2018, 10:06 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-12-2018, 06:38 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by dawckward - 02-09-2018, 11:18 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-12-2018, 06:42 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-12-2018, 06:53 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 02-12-2018, 12:42 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-16-2018, 08:03 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by HIRVIOS - 02-12-2018, 11:21 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-16-2018, 08:06 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-16-2018, 08:16 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 02-16-2018, 08:56 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-17-2018, 08:11 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 02-16-2018, 09:29 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-17-2018, 08:14 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by HIRVIOS - 02-17-2018, 12:36 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-17-2018, 08:16 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 02-17-2018, 02:24 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-17-2018, 08:18 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-17-2018, 08:28 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by dawckward - 02-17-2018, 07:52 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-22-2018, 07:03 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 02-18-2018, 03:53 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-22-2018, 07:05 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-22-2018, 07:16 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-23-2018, 07:11 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 02-24-2018, 03:57 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-01-2018, 07:13 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-01-2018, 07:21 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 03-01-2018, 08:27 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-02-2018, 07:16 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 03-01-2018, 10:45 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-02-2018, 07:18 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-02-2018, 07:25 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Abnormal - 03-02-2018, 02:45 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-05-2018, 05:15 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 03-03-2018, 08:52 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-05-2018, 05:18 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 03-03-2018, 11:15 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-05-2018, 05:24 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-05-2018, 05:43 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 03-05-2018, 05:47 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-07-2018, 06:51 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-07-2018, 06:59 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 03-07-2018, 10:17 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-09-2018, 07:06 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-09-2018, 07:17 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 03-09-2018, 08:36 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-16-2018, 07:35 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-16-2018, 07:44 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Tygerson - 03-16-2018, 08:23 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-19-2018, 07:32 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 03-16-2018, 08:39 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-19-2018, 07:35 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-19-2018, 07:40 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-23-2018, 07:55 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 03-23-2018, 10:54 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-01-2018, 06:08 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-01-2018, 06:22 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-03-2018, 05:02 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Richie - 04-03-2018, 05:54 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-06-2018, 05:25 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 04-03-2018, 06:01 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-06-2018, 05:27 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-06-2018, 05:49 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 04-06-2018, 06:50 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-07-2018, 02:17 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 04-07-2018, 04:00 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-09-2018, 04:54 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-09-2018, 05:00 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 04-09-2018, 06:28 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-12-2018, 06:22 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-12-2018, 06:35 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-15-2018, 05:42 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-19-2018, 06:42 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 04-19-2018, 09:56 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-26-2018, 05:46 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-26-2018, 05:58 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-05-2018, 05:47 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 05-05-2018, 06:15 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-06-2018, 07:45 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-06-2018, 07:57 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 05-06-2018, 10:39 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-07-2018, 05:47 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-13-2018, 01:44 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-21-2018, 04:49 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 05-21-2018, 07:10 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-31-2018, 06:16 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 05-21-2018, 07:24 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-31-2018, 06:18 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-31-2018, 06:54 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-31-2018, 06:58 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 05-31-2018, 08:43 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-01-2018, 06:37 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-01-2018, 06:44 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 06-01-2018, 07:46 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-03-2018, 05:24 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-03-2018, 05:30 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Matthew M - 06-04-2018, 09:00 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-11-2018, 07:00 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-11-2018, 07:09 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 06-11-2018, 08:26 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-13-2018, 06:21 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-13-2018, 06:34 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 06-13-2018, 08:10 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-18-2018, 04:49 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by JosephCow - 06-13-2018, 01:21 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-18-2018, 04:52 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-18-2018, 05:01 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 06-18-2018, 10:44 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-26-2018, 06:40 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-26-2018, 06:45 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 06-26-2018, 11:24 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-27-2018, 05:54 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-27-2018, 06:00 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-27-2018, 06:05 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Matthew M - 06-27-2018, 08:34 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-30-2018, 06:11 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-30-2018, 06:21 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 06-30-2018, 06:48 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-02-2018, 04:47 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-02-2018, 04:57 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 07-02-2018, 05:55 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-05-2018, 07:19 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-05-2018, 07:29 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 07-05-2018, 07:50 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-09-2018, 04:14 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-09-2018, 04:27 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 07-09-2018, 05:17 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-12-2018, 07:21 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-12-2018, 07:32 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 07-12-2018, 08:01 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 07-12-2018, 09:22 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-17-2018, 07:01 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-17-2018, 07:17 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Matthew M - 07-17-2018, 11:10 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-22-2018, 11:36 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-22-2018, 11:56 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 07-23-2018, 01:54 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-26-2018, 07:31 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-26-2018, 07:42 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 07-26-2018, 08:02 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-30-2018, 03:56 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-30-2018, 04:11 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-02-2018, 07:24 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 08-02-2018, 09:43 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-05-2018, 07:11 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 08-02-2018, 01:16 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-05-2018, 07:15 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-05-2018, 07:22 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 08-05-2018, 08:20 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-08-2018, 07:08 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-08-2018, 07:14 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-11-2018, 06:56 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 08-11-2018, 07:27 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-20-2018, 12:28 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 08-11-2018, 08:20 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-20-2018, 12:33 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-20-2018, 12:55 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 08-20-2018, 01:32 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-20-2018, 03:34 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 08-20-2018, 03:58 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-28-2018, 05:14 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-28-2018, 05:26 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 08-28-2018, 05:54 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-06-2018, 05:25 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 08-28-2018, 07:31 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-06-2018, 05:28 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-06-2018, 05:42 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 09-06-2018, 12:01 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-15-2018, 07:08 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 09-06-2018, 12:22 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-15-2018, 07:10 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-15-2018, 07:24 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 09-15-2018, 12:12 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-17-2018, 04:24 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-17-2018, 04:32 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 09-17-2018, 07:36 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-02-2018, 07:09 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-02-2018, 07:22 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 10-02-2018, 08:26 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-06-2018, 05:22 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-06-2018, 05:32 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by chubby_cat - 10-06-2018, 11:43 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-10-2018, 05:57 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-10-2018, 06:15 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Shinkasuru - 10-12-2018, 08:28 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Artloader - 10-11-2018, 07:47 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Baldgate - 10-11-2018, 08:30 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 10-12-2018, 12:08 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-15-2018, 02:34 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-15-2018, 02:51 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 10-15-2018, 06:36 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-21-2018, 11:49 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Artloader - 10-15-2018, 08:41 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-21-2018, 11:54 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-22-2018, 12:08 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 10-22-2018, 08:52 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-29-2018, 06:26 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Shinkasuru - 10-22-2018, 10:46 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-29-2018, 06:30 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-29-2018, 06:58 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 10-29-2018, 09:29 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-30-2018, 05:50 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-30-2018, 05:58 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 10-30-2018, 06:40 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Shinkasuru - 10-31-2018, 11:00 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-05-2018, 06:14 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 10-31-2018, 10:49 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-05-2018, 06:20 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-05-2018, 06:34 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 11-05-2018, 10:16 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-13-2018, 06:57 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Shinkasuru - 11-06-2018, 10:29 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-13-2018, 06:58 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-13-2018, 07:29 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 11-13-2018, 09:08 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-20-2018, 06:52 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-20-2018, 07:13 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 11-20-2018, 08:01 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-26-2018, 05:28 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-26-2018, 05:45 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Gliger - 11-26-2018, 07:43 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by bluehabit - 11-26-2018, 07:45 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 11-26-2018, 08:34 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 12-10-2018, 02:36 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 12-10-2018, 03:02 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 12-10-2018, 07:25 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 12-17-2018, 12:47 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 12-17-2018, 01:03 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 12-17-2018, 01:26 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 12-25-2018, 02:27 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 12-25-2018, 02:44 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 01-01-2019, 10:43 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-03-2019, 06:43 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-03-2019, 07:02 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 01-03-2019, 07:52 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-07-2019, 04:57 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-07-2019, 05:03 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 01-07-2019, 07:30 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-14-2019, 04:40 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-14-2019, 05:01 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 01-14-2019, 05:10 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-22-2019, 06:36 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Arteriorrhexis - 01-14-2019, 07:31 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-22-2019, 06:40 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 01-22-2019, 07:02 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 01-22-2019, 07:51 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-03-2019, 06:28 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-03-2019, 07:01 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 02-03-2019, 07:49 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-19-2019, 07:05 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-19-2019, 07:22 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 02-19-2019, 07:42 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 02-19-2019, 10:34 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-06-2019, 07:05 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by beau - 02-19-2019, 12:13 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-06-2019, 07:08 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-06-2019, 07:23 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-06-2019, 07:37 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 03-06-2019, 08:12 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-18-2019, 01:01 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 03-18-2019, 02:37 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 03-18-2019, 03:07 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-01-2019, 12:10 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-01-2019, 12:31 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 04-01-2019, 12:48 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-03-2019, 06:26 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-03-2019, 06:35 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-04-2019, 06:29 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 04-04-2019, 06:33 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-05-2019, 06:19 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-08-2019, 02:57 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 04-08-2019, 03:56 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-09-2019, 05:54 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-09-2019, 06:00 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 04-09-2019, 11:36 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-11-2019, 05:39 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 04-11-2019, 08:35 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by roanna - 04-13-2019, 09:32 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-15-2019, 04:44 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 04-15-2019, 05:42 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by roanna - 04-15-2019, 06:20 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-16-2019, 06:19 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-18-2019, 06:12 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by roanna - 04-18-2019, 07:07 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-21-2019, 02:31 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-21-2019, 02:46 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Tristan Berndt - 04-21-2019, 08:09 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-21-2019, 06:10 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by roanna - 04-21-2019, 08:52 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-22-2019, 10:14 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by roanna - 04-22-2019, 11:16 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 04-23-2019, 12:24 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Tristan Berndt - 04-23-2019, 01:50 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-24-2019, 10:07 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-24-2019, 10:20 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-25-2019, 04:54 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by roanna - 04-25-2019, 06:48 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 04-25-2019, 06:58 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by roanna - 04-25-2019, 07:44 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-02-2019, 06:41 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Tristan Berndt - 04-27-2019, 02:54 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-02-2019, 06:55 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-02-2019, 07:20 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by JosephCow - 05-02-2019, 03:18 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-12-2019, 02:41 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 05-02-2019, 10:23 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by JosephCow - 05-03-2019, 01:26 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-12-2019, 02:48 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by JosephCow - 05-12-2019, 05:51 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-20-2019, 04:45 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-12-2019, 02:47 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-12-2019, 03:12 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 05-12-2019, 04:02 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-20-2019, 04:40 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-20-2019, 05:10 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 05-20-2019, 11:43 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-29-2019, 11:50 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Tristan Berndt - 05-23-2019, 09:49 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-29-2019, 11:53 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 05-30-2019, 12:14 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-03-2019, 05:26 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-12-2019, 07:01 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 06-12-2019, 09:17 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-19-2019, 06:28 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-19-2019, 06:40 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 06-19-2019, 08:27 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-20-2019, 12:42 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 06-20-2019, 12:54 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-22-2019, 06:24 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 06-22-2019, 06:28 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-22-2019, 06:34 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 06-22-2019, 06:55 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-24-2019, 01:33 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-24-2019, 02:01 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 06-24-2019, 02:17 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-25-2019, 06:39 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Tristan Berndt - 06-24-2019, 02:43 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-25-2019, 06:47 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 06-25-2019, 06:48 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-01-2019, 05:46 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 07-01-2019, 12:38 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-02-2019, 04:13 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-02-2019, 06:47 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 07-02-2019, 10:34 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-08-2019, 05:23 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by chubby_cat - 07-08-2019, 04:07 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-14-2019, 05:59 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-14-2019, 06:13 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-19-2019, 07:11 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-22-2019, 02:45 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 07-30-2019, 07:22 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-04-2019, 04:05 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by JosephCow - 08-04-2019, 04:27 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-23-2019, 05:23 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-23-2019, 05:51 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-23-2019, 06:37 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by JosephCow - 08-23-2019, 10:36 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-27-2019, 03:38 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-27-2019, 03:46 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 08-27-2019, 05:34 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-29-2019, 05:57 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 08-29-2019, 06:06 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-03-2019, 06:08 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-05-2019, 05:43 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-11-2019, 06:34 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 09-30-2019, 06:01 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 10-01-2019, 09:09 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-07-2019, 01:47 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-07-2019, 02:02 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 10-07-2019, 05:18 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-15-2019, 06:14 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-15-2019, 06:30 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 10-15-2019, 10:56 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-21-2019, 04:57 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-21-2019, 05:12 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 10-21-2019, 12:23 PM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-28-2019, 05:52 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 10-28-2019, 06:15 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Fedodika - 10-28-2019, 07:14 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-06-2019, 08:04 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Tristan Berndt - 10-29-2019, 03:02 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-06-2019, 08:28 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-06-2019, 08:29 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-07-2019, 08:23 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-18-2019, 04:52 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by darktiste - 11-18-2019, 05:24 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-27-2019, 07:35 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-27-2019, 07:54 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 11-28-2019, 07:19 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Tristan Berndt - 11-28-2019, 08:59 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 12-03-2019, 07:20 AM
RE: Peter's Sketchbook - by Peter - 12-03-2019, 07:42 AM

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