Dreschler- Thanks. Yea I kinda started focusing more on just design and rendering materials and stuff but yea should get back to some anatomy books. Thanks for comment.
Fedodika- Yea I kinda did not meat it like I would start working tomorow but I was listening to Dave Rapoza older podcast and he was saying like Brad Rigney was studying to no end and then when he came out he didnt know anything about the job side of it. And yea I dont think I am good enough to work but I dont even know how good one needs to be or I dont even know what jobs are out there and how and where to find them. I literally dont know anything so I wanted to just make it a bit clearer or to not go blind into it.
Thanks for "analyzing" those stuff like that. Like I knew there was a problem but now I specifically see where and with what. Yea thanks for that I kinda was drilling myself and trying to do alot of stuff in one day so was not focusing on specific stuff just wanted to jump to another thing.
Hmm i did not even heard of Drawabox. Will look into it. Yea thanks for comment and reply to that shoutbox thing.
Flow-Thanks. Should probably look into loomis again. :D Yea and was trying to study design these few weeks but yea dont understand it at all :D Should probably find some text or something for it. Thanks for comment.
Well for the job side, just look at companies you'd wanna work for and create a portfolio that would match their style, then send your stuff in to the art director. I think Rigney said, "other people will see it before you do." as far as being ready. You'll start getting commissions when the stars line up, but it takes that good sense of proportion. (and make sure youre on social media which presumably you are...)
I know this will sound crazy, but just give painting a break, nothing but lines for a while, just focus on basic shapes, do Drawabox from the very first lesson, learn how to draw cubes right, straight lines, curved lines. That stuff comes back and will make your stuff so much more cohesive. I promise you dude, look at all the pros, their drawings alone are enough to excite the hell out of people. Gotta get that first, the painting should just be an afterthought. A drawing should look good even at its roughest stages and look three dimensional. All the shading in the world will not save a bad drawing my friend
Fedodika- hmmm about the social media which one you mean? I dont really use any, I post my stuff on DA and artstation. I have personal facebook with like 10 ppl there soo no one would see it there anyway. Dont really use it so I dont know benefits of using it.
Yea I agree with the drawing before painting it makes sence to me and it did even before but I kinda forgot about it :D Dont know if I get painting a total break :D but will look into some more linearty exercises. Getting to a point of getting som out off art job and giving the art break (making it just a hobby probably) or getting some income from art so was kinda stressing that but yea .... makes sence :D
But thanks for comment.
Some stuff from today. I also did some gestures on construction but closed it without saving :D Also totaly forgot about anatomy of leg so will need to look into that.
Stuff from past few days.. Finished the design I was working on. Was watching few videos on design and stuff so trying to try some stuff but still I have no idea what I´m doing with this :D Dont know if it is too busy or something. Also trying to focus on proportions and stuff with my studies .
bro I'm just gonna throw this in there, don't take it personal; I think this character your working on is a waste of time, he looks weird, with everything the proportions, the face, the way the leg connects to the hips, the feet, the hands everything.
I think you should keep working on those line studies which are looking promising. Keep doing that, stop rendering for a while. The marco study looks fantastic because the drawing and the foundations are there but when I scroll down i just wince I think "man if only he could plan out a drawing like that marko piece."
The design, like the choices you made for the clothing are good and stylish, but they are flawed in their perspective; I'm going to do some paintovers so you can SEE what I mean.
Look more into line weight, and what you can do with just line when it comes to rendering. You only seem to have one style when it comes to that of just indicating what you see. Also, your boxes on your construction are a bit skewed and made of flawed shapes, I left a few examples. Do some Drawabox dude, DOOOO EEETTT!!
I would agree with Fedo about what he said about fortifying foundations. It's a constant, yet relative, setback for everybody, from nobodies to pros. It is not rare to still see pros studying or trying to figure out something as 'basic' as anatomy. We should always be testing, building, and improving on our fundamentals and that will be the same old tired song that we'll be hearing for the rest of our lives.
One thing I would dispute about what Fedo said is doing your characters being a waste of time.
It's not.
If it weren't for your characters/personal pieces, then your studies wouldn't make any sense. If not for your ideas being put in action, you would be studying for nothing. I think you're juggling both personal pieces and studies, which I think is fantastic.
Just don't forget to apply your studies, be aware of the mistakes you make, and make it a subject you would perhaps study!
Don't stop creating. Your one of those guys who are consistent with the legwork, and it's inspiring to watch. Keep it up!
If you are reading this, I most likely just gave you a crappy crit! What I'm basically trying to say is, don't give up! ---- IG: @thatpuddinhead
Fedodika- Why do you think it is waste of time? I think doing personal stuff is also form of study. Trying and failing and trying again. Yea thats why I study Marko´s stuff, because I am not as good as he is. Yea those boxes are just warmup for me in the morning, which should not be excuse of doing them wrong but yea, will keep a eye on them.
Thanks for paintover I did not noticed some stuff. I agree that I should definitelly plan more and study forms of muscles and stuff but I dont think it would be good idea for me to just do studies and not sketches and stuff on side. But yea thanks for comment and paintovers.
John- Yea I agree with that too. I knew it, but I god kinda lost and forgot about it. But yea will definitely look into fundementals more.
Thanks I pretty much think the same way about study/personal work stuff. Sometimes is fun to study and the times when stuff clicks in your head and suddenly you understand stuff are great but I dont think I would enjoy studying just for the study sake. Also doing personal stuff I would think is form of study where you try to put it all together.
hmmm thanks but I dont think if consistent with legwork :D I see myself taking alot of days off :D but yea thanks for comment.
Some stuff did not do much. Also did some traditional stuff but will scan it later. I did not realized that I did not do too much leg studies so wil be looking into it more.
no I don't mean making characters is a waste of time, it's just rendering or painting one thing for many hours that has a very flawed base, in my opinion is a waste of time. I think it'd be better spent working on basic shapes and sure drawing characters but trying to get that base and structure more developed.
I've seen people who have the opposite problem that I think you have, people who are great at drawing but not great at painting.
But for them it's not so much a problem, since the drawing is good, people find their work appealing on the lines alone, and they can call their not you know, master level painting skills a style choice and it works.
And I know you've gotten a lot of compliments on your painting, I have a similar problem to you, that's why I kinda started getting back to it; Again, the rendering on that character you're doing is very impressive, especially the green cloak, the suble bounced lights, the textures etc. you have a very good handle on it, but his anatomy is so busted up and his proportions are so weird, it basically makes the views first impression of it really not what you'd want.
Maybe when you see it you feel proud of the painting, and you should, but people will subconsiously not be that excited by it because instinctively if something doesn't make sense in a drawing our brain turns off. Like if you draw a stickman with no head, people will say, "where's his head?" and like, as you do more and more complex stuff with realism, the more things you need to get right. Things have to make sense.
Right now, his proportions don't make sense. Like his hands are reeeeaaally small, and his arms are reeeaaaly long. Like, if he held his hand to his face, it would cover only up to his eyebrow from his chin, and people won't notice that, they'll say, oh awesome, but that really crucial thing will make them not excited about it. They won't be able to explain it. Also like his arm that's on his hip, it's tilted, right? But the way it goes into the bicep doesn't make sense. The little iron plate there is in perfect profile, wouldn't it be rotated? It's like it's a symbol of an iron plate, not a three dimensional one.
And your stuff looks kinda stiff you know, like there's just a straight line of action in everything.
I'd also reccomend if you can going to schoolism and taking just one month of classes for 10$ they have a discount right now, and take Alex Woo's Gesture class. I took it and it showed me a lot of things to consider when making my drawings less stiff...
So no, doing characters is good, but taking weeks to paint them with a flawed base, is a waste of time in my personal opinon.
Fedodika- Yea makes sence. I cant really think in just line so I try to study 3d forms with rendering and stuff. Also I am still learning all of this stuff so ofcourse all of my stuff are shitty but I like to think that I am also learning through that stuff.
Also it was supposted to be female character and I tried to do some armor without boob-plates but yea It probably kinda did not worked :D
Yea that class looks nice but I am totaly broke soo probably wont see it :D But will at least look into that crit.
Yea thanks for crit.
Took a day off. Some studies and sketches. Worked a bit on that character.
SOme stuff. The master study is pretty fun, liking how soft the skin is rendered. And also did some light study how it falls on form. But weekends are retardet cant focus so did not do so much.
Varb I challange you to draw the craziest most dynamic gesture you can find/come up with. It could be a big kick or someone freaking out, whatever, have all the limbs moving, see what you can do with that prompt
another crit for you varbas, I think you'd benefit a lot from working on gesture and getting the proportions nice and fluid before you start putting down values and texture. Your linework is nice, you know your muscles; that's very good, we believe it. Now work on gesture, loosen up for a while dont be afraid to make stray marks and scribble. Stiffness is your biggest obstacle right now and the studies you seem to be doing are only making it worse
Fedodika- hmm I am sorry I dont really understand that sketch you did. It is a masterstudy so I did not really came up with the proportions and anatomy and stuff in the picture(although it may be very likely I just copied them wrong). If it is representation of body under clothing I think it goes more like this, and the rest is just drapery, or loose clothing or I dont really know how to describe it. But yea I pop also the original painting because it may be that I just copied it wrong or something. But thanks for comment.
Did some studies and working on the wips I have nothing new. Really boring stuff coming no need to read further.
Took a few days off where I did not even do a single drawing and when I came back I could focus somehow again. Also read some stuff and was thinking about how I work and kinda make sence that I cant focus at all. I dont go outside and dont talk to anyone sometimes even for a weeks just work and study so pretty much no wonder that I am losing my mind a bit. Not talking to people cant really change but will try to go outside at least every few days and see if it helps. Also will try to take days off at least every two weeks because of the improvement after the last time. That said I will probably not do any of it and just stay in this trap but just something to think about for somebody in similiar situation.
