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i really think youre wasting your time with these

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I think one of the error i did was to be too concern about copying.
I should have draw over the image instead and then later on just copy the image side by side
One of the other error seem to be that was using the wrong value for the sake of making object read.
It time to go back to the drawing board and check if i can improve on those point.

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I also have videos from my full environment mentorship which are old now but potentially useful stuff for you on my channel. Link in my signature.

The biggest error you made was not really understanding what or why you are studying with 3 value tones and choosing terrible images to study from.

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The worst is that i been watching your stuff and trying to extract knowledge but i kinda fail to fuily extract it into something potable at the moment.I am working on it in the coming day.

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Yeah If I were to redo the videos it would be to have a step in-between the 2 value notan (which is purely a warmup composition design exercise, NOT proper value study) and the full value sketch process from imagination. I didn't show anything about actually doing proper value studies, but it would be very similar to the value sketch process I use except you would be working from one reference. Or what Noah shows, except he doesn't show using reference on screen either
*EDIT ---- Actually Noah shows exactly the study process that I would do for any landscape value study, with ref side by side. So there's nothing confusing at all

Check out the assignment at end of the Notan video. https://sites.google.com/site/edrocks2015/assignment
You can also see people's submissions and all my crits on there. https://sites.google.com/site/edrocks2015/students
It's overkill, but should be enough. Ask questions if you are confused.

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I think it starting to stick in my mind i also did one error where instead of matching value i use the same set of value for every piece.So instead of figuring out what was the nearest value it was termine to be of one of 3 tone.
The 3 tone where alway the same across all those study one white,mid grey,black.Pure black and pure white is stupid to use.

Would you consider it helpful for a begginer in value to use photoshop to turn a color image into it greyscale version first or should i studying straight out from color and try to figure out the color greyscale equivalent.

The example study really help me get an idea of the process since it repeat over and over.

Anyway no more over thinking i need to show some work so we can debug my flaw.

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Analysing using PS before and after you do any study is going to be extremely useful so yes do it. The more specific things you take out of each study the better. You can do both. Studying straight from colour to value is also good and will be an increased challenge than only looking at grayscale.

Limited tonal studies are incredibly useful but for different reasons to understanding accurate value...a lot of these are more about compositional design, simplifying overall value grouping, shape design, basic light/shadow arrangement.

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4 tone value mapping study.Learning to squint as much as possible really seem to be the key to this playing with hue and saturation with the magic wand selecting chuck of value seem to be simplfiying the process.Just gotta make sure the tolerance is set to an acceptable number so that value close in value don't get selected as one unit by the magic wand.


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This finish my 10 4 value mapping review since i had a few couple feedback i was doing a few thing wrong hopefully i did some improvement on what have been said.Atleast i got some mileage to see if there any progress.


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One of the most valuable things in doing studies like this is the simplification of shapes. Personally, I have found that one of the most important skills to develop in painting is the skill of painting from big to small shapes. Starting with big simplified shapes and working to smaller shapes really leads to better results. Maybe this is something you could take notice of as you are doing these value studies?

Hope that helps dude.

Keep going though and thank you for contributing to the life of this forum :).

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I am aware of the big shape approch to drawing.Working small also.My biggest enemy is drawing small there something so enjoyable about overendering stuff but if it lead to weak result so why bother if you can get result working small.

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