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I like this study. Pretty good coming from your imagination.

I think on a man this size you would see more flaring of the lats from the front. Your guy looks like he is undeveloped there. I don't think you need massive wings, but I think the developing the lats a little more might look better.

Also, with the man this size, I would think he would have a little more mass on his forearms. The muscle that runs down the forearm looks a little small in my opinion. It's just a thought and I'm not sure I'm correct on this, but I thought the area I circled on the photo here would look like one big massive, bulky muscle. Although if your guy is super cut and shredded then you are probably okay.

Cool drawing and I like seeing your construction lines. I always love construction lines.


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@Fedodika:  Awesome, thanks for feeding back mate.  Out of all the things you've pointed out, I think my biggest concern is the stiffness - you are right - I will tackle that first I think.

@Shinkasuru:  Thanks for stopping by mate.  Yeah good point about the latissimus and the forearms, I'll probably do some studies to build my visual library for these.

So to combat my stiffness, I did some gesture sketches:



And then another sketch from imagination, this time I started from a gesture sketch instead of from a construction sketch to try to get rid of some of that stiffness.  It's interesting because when I dipped back into my Hampton book, he starts from a gesture and then builds in the construction on top of the gesture.  I obviously forgot all this from when I went through the book last time!  Again, any crits. most welcome:


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id say its x2 better i would write more but i has no keyboard :M

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lovely gestures drawing :) ! they feel happy. And cool drawing from imagination, can feel the structure !


I think drawings models that aren't overmuscular might help you for the stiffness.
Sometime bodybuilder can give a wrong idea of anatomy, as most people don't have that kind of body. Abs are the last thing that ll get this ''drawn'' look, people have fat on arm, belly, thight, breast and many other area.
I remember a very interesting quote from Frank Frazetta that said that athlete mostly had back muscles developped generally, for propulsion, but not front muscle. (he was an athlete himself, a baseball one :p) . I'm a big big fan of his work.

I think that focusing on that type of people might make you think a bit too much about muscle, while the general movement and structure of the figure is mainly about bones .
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Definitely an improvement on the second muscleman sketch. I really like this one a lot, and I love your gesture drawings. I don't have any criticism on the new sketch. I think this one is really solid.

I was doing some gestures recently and wanted to keep up a practice of doing it daily, but it's just too difficult to stick to it. Something has to be sacrificed, so one night it might be Loomis heads, another it could be doing a painting study, and another i might be doodling and drawing boxes. I've been drawing some heads this week, so I would like to get back to gesture and figure drawing next week, and I must get busy with the hands. I have avoided tackling that one for too long.

Were the gestures from imagination or reference, and were they a set time?
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@Fedodika: Thanks mate, definitely better to start with gesture I think.

@Baldgate:  Thanks, yeah I will work my way around the different body types, I'd like to get used to drawing all kinds of people.  I love Frazetta too, might even do a study of one of his pieces at some point :).

@Shinkasuru:  Thanks, yeah it's good to have a routine but it's even better to not burn out so try mix-up the boring stuff with fun stuff too.  Maybe do gestures once a week or something?

Been itching to do some Marvel studies - I loved Infinity War, here's a line study of Thor:



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id reccomend you find some really expressive gestures like karl gnass or someone and do studies of their gesturey lines, your stuff is so stiff, like some gritty expressive stuff would really do you a lot of good something really flowy like this

http://spirit-of-the-pose.com/wp-content...erJazz.jpg

apply your learning techniques to stuff like that for a while and youll see your stuff jump in quality ;)

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Marvel character studies = always awesomeness. (I'm kind of a Marvel fan girl. Shhh, don't tell anyone.)

I don't have much to say, just envying your gesture studies at the moment. I may steal/practice some of your ideas/methods at some point while going through my own 'learning gestures' journey. (Yours have a really nice fluidity that I like, while still nodding to construction. I can certainly pull helpful pointers from that.) 

Keep it up! :D

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@Artloader: I second what Riley said. I like your gestures. They are fluid and graceful, and clearly define the action.

Great Thor study. I was doing what of Wolverine the other day (Hugh Jackman's Wolverine). Not even sure if that's Marvel or DC. I think it's Marvel. Always fun to draw superheroes.

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@Fedodika:  Thanks for taking the time mate :).  Yeah I can see why you'd say my stuff is so stiff, I've had this thing about drawing with straight lines for a while now after reading this article:

https://fineartviews.com/blog/34952/simp...ed-objects

I love this approach as it forces me to make definite decisions about what each line is doing and helps me with accuracy. I guess it can result in stiffness though, I will see f I can loosen up, I'll definitely check out this Karl Grass guy though, thanks for the info.

@Riley:  Heheh Marvel fan girl hey? Then you're cool in my book :). Thanks, my gestures are learned from Michael Hampton, I actually copy some of his gestures first then go on and work from actual figure refs. Check out his blog:

http://figuredrawingdotinfo.blogspot.com/?m=1

@Shikasuru:  Thank you, yep Hugh Jackman's Wolverine is cool, good choice mate!  And you're right, he's Marvel :).

Did a painting study of Thor:



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I would say be careful with the desaturation in the shadow i am not an expert myself but i think you over did it.One other point i want to mention is reflectivity you separate a lot of value as if they where highly reflective material you should reserve highlight for the nose and the forehead and bridge of the face.I use the smudge tool and a soft brush and work where i find your value to be to separated and i blend them into one shape.There a phase where you have to stop mapping value and start blending but you don't seem to go fully into this stage yet.Good luck i hope it was instructive.


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straight lines are great for design and drafstman ship but its so limiting, there is so much in art that are C and S curves, you can sure simplify them into straight lines, but do that after youve figured out a pose using every tool at your disposal, a finishing touch basically ;)

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I like the line drawing of Thor. I like the painting as well; however, I think some of the forms were lost (like the blockiness of the chest, which I liked in the line drawing). I'm no great colorist here, I'll admit I have much to learn, but I have done a lot of 3D painting over the years with an airbrush, and one of the things I am very conscious about is painting with warm red colors. I think your Thor painting could use some more reds, especially in the face. I think it would also go well with the cooler background.

I think you did a good job with this one. I like the pose, the line art, and the painting. Nice study!

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